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Tech Question on Yamaha CS-50

2004-04-14 by Jim Combs

Hi all,

I need to do some basic maintenance on my CS-50 and am looking for a copy of a tech manual or some instructions on the following.

- Checking and adjusting the power supply DC output.
- Getting the overall tuning back into range so I have leeway to adjust up and down
- Adjustment or scaling of individual notes or voices

I have seen the online documentation on the CS-80, but the modules look different enough that I think the CS-50/60 probably have their own specific steps and values.

Anyone have info that might help?

Thanks!

-Jim

Re: [oldsynths] Tech Question on Yamaha CS-50

2004-04-14 by Rory Mc Donald

I have the CS60 docs- I got them from YAMAHA.
You might want to check MANUAL MANOR first though...
http://www.markglinsky.com/ManualManor.html

I would like to see a webpage dedicated to showing pics of the 
calibration procedure. Anyone game?

-Rory McDonald
OLDSYNTHS Moderator
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On Apr 14, 2004, at 9:45 AM, Jim Combs wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  I need to do some basic maintenance on my CS-50 and am looking for a 
> copy of a tech manual or some instructions on the following.
>
>  - Checking and adjusting the power supply DC output.
>  - Getting the overall tuning back into range so I have leeway to 
> adjust up and down
>  - Adjustment or scaling of individual notes or voices
>
>  I have seen the online documentation on the CS-80, but the modules 
> look different enough that I think the CS-50/60 probably have their 
> own specific steps and values.
>
>  Anyone have info that might help?
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  -Jim
>
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Re: Tech Question on Yamaha CS-50

2004-04-14 by jimcombsus

Thanks Rory.  I have a note into Mark to see if he has the tech 
manual for sale.

-Jim
 www.touchxtone.com

--- In oldsynths@yahoogroups.com, Rory Mc Donald 
<rorymcd@m...> wrote:
> I have the CS60 docs- I got them from YAMAHA.
> You might want to check MANUAL MANOR first though...
> http://www.markglinsky.com/ManualManor.html
> 
> I would like to see a webpage dedicated to showing pics of the 
> calibration procedure. Anyone game?
> 
> -Rory McDonald
> OLDSYNTHS Moderator
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2004, at 9:45 AM, Jim Combs wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  I need to do some basic maintenance on my CS-50 and am 
looking for a 
> > copy of a tech manual or some instructions on the following.
> >
> >  - Checking and adjusting the power supply DC output.
> >  - Getting the overall tuning back into range so I have leeway 
to 
> > adjust up and down
> >  - Adjustment or scaling of individual notes or voices
> >
> >  I have seen the online documentation on the CS-80, but the 
modules 
> > look different enough that I think the CS-50/60 probably have 
their 
> > own specific steps and values.
> >
> >  Anyone have info that might help?
> >
> >  Thanks!
> >
> >  -Jim
> >
> >
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Re: [oldsynths] Tech Question on Yamaha CS-50

2004-04-14 by The Old Crow

Tuning a CS-50 is almost the same as tuning a CS-80.  In fact it is much 
easier (4 cards to adjust vs. 16).  Before adjusting any of the power 
supply trimmers, measure the output voltages to see if they are within 10% 
of the expected values.  If a supply trimmer needs adjusted, try to get 
the output as close to the ideal value (e.g., +8.500V).  I have an image 
of the original CS-50 power supply PC board here:

http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/yamaha/cs50/CS50_power_supply_layout.gif

  VR1: adjusts the +15V
  VR2: adjusts the -15V
  VR3: adjusts the +8.5V
  VR4: adjusts the -6.5V

  Adjustment of KAS and M boards is the same as on a CS-80.

Crow
http://www.cs80.com/
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Jim Combs wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I need to do some basic maintenance on my CS-50 and am looking for a
> copy of a tech manual or some instructions on the following.
> 
> - Checking and adjusting the power supply DC output.
> - Getting the overall tuning back into range so I have leeway to adjust up
> and down
> - Adjustment or scaling of individual notes or voices
> 
> I have seen the online documentation on the CS-80, but the modules look
> different enough that I think the CS-50/60 probably have their own
> specific steps and values.
> 
> Anyone have info that might help?

Re: Tech Question on Yamaha CS-50

2004-04-18 by Jim Combs

Hello again,

Well, thanks to Crow, I figured out the power supply voltages and it\u2019s spot on.

Now I\u2019m moving to get the reference tuning done, but I don\u2019t think the CS-50 has a BA board like the CS-80 to do the overall tune adjustment. Besides the KAS, M, and SH boards, I\u2019ve got a PRA, R7, T71, T72 and SUB board. Could the VR3, BA board reside elsewhere on the CS-50? Or, more likely, there is no master adjustment on a CS-50 and I have to retune the 4 voices in order to true up to the reference tuner center position. Any one know?

I\u2019ve got a gig this coming weekend I\u2019d love to use the CS at but at this point it\u2019s about 20 cents out of tune and the reference tuner won\u2019t turn far enough to get it back.

Thanks!

-Jim
www.touchxtone.com

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