Hi Malte, You are right. The problem I have had is reproducing the problem. As I said earlier this fault wouldn¹t show itself for hours on end. I finally realized the thing to do was to actually play the P6 which very quickly reveals the problem. Especially if you bash out a few chords and sweep the filters and VCO controls as you are doing it. In my case I used manual¹ mode as the control for the experiment. When the fault appeared bank lights A-D would extinguish and lights 2, 4, 7 would light. What kind of patch is that? The CPU is clearly very susceptible to noise on the clone board, so much so than the old 367 for some reason. Even getting you hand close to the oscillator for testing sends it into a spin. If you compare this with the original 367 the circuitry is ultra stable. Whilst measuring the clock input at C22 I realized that in doing this the whole CPU would appear less likely to crash when I was probing. If I leave the scope probes in place and then bash out a few chords whilst sweeping the filter, etc, I cannot get the board to leave manual mode. I am guessing that as the scope probes are very high impedance then it must be the capacitance of them which is stabilizing the circuit. This is also the case with just the probes attached, not even a scope! My probes are around 47pF, so that in parallel with the 22pF I am testing would be 68pF (or as near the E series value as you can get). This is much along the same lines as your initial experiment, but with a more clear view of what might be happening. Perhaps we should suggest people leave the scope probes attached before they screw down the lid! Can anyone else think of any property that might be introduced the probes? In the mean time I¹ll trying some more modifications to the oscillator. Cheers, Andy On 02/09/2010 19:31, "Malte Rogacki" <gacki@gacki.sax.de> wrote: > Andrew; > > I've reverted to my previous version now (with the 10pF cap for C23) and > the board has been runing fine now for several hours again. > > The problems with that particular KLM-367 also were manifest in another > Polysix so I doubt my case has something to do with a specific machine. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [PolySix] Re: Problem with new KLM-367A
2010-09-02 by Andrew Jury
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