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VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

2015-08-10 by moogchild synthdrome

Hi again. This time I have a Polysix whose VCOs are always modulated by a very slow sine or triangle wave. Of course all modulation controls in the panel and mod wheel are at zero value. If I change the battery board using a good one, the modulation disappears, so it is clearly a problem of the KLM-367A. Do you know what parts should I check?. Thank you for your help.

Kind regards

Manuel

Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

2015-08-10 by <backshall1@bellsouth.net>

Does it change with the MG speed control or does it seem unrelated to the MG?
Don B.
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To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

  
Hi again. This time I have a Polysix whose VCOs are always modulated by a very slow sine or triangle wave. Of course all modulation controls in the panel and mod wheel are at zero value. If I change the battery board using a good one, the modulation disappears, so it is clearly a problem of the KLM-367A. Do you know what parts should I check?. Thank you for your help.

Kind regards

Manuel

Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

2015-08-10 by moogchild synthdrome

No, it isn't related with the speed of the MG. Once I repaired another KLM-367A board which produced a high speed modulation in the sound, I replaced IC30 and the problem was solved. But this time I've replaced IC30 and IC31 and the slow modulation remains. All other functions are ok.

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El lun, 10/8/15, backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> escribió:

 Asunto: Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction
 Para: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 Fecha: lunes, 10 de agosto, 2015 20:32
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
 
 
 
 Does it change with the MG speed control or does it
 seem unrelated to the 
 MG?
 Don B.
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 From: mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:15 PM
 To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due
 to battery board 
 malfunction
  
  
 
 
 Hi again. This time I have a Polysix whose VCOs are
 always modulated by a 
 very slow sine or triangle wave. Of course all modulation
 controls in the panel 
 and mod wheel are at zero value. If I change the battery
 board using a good one, 
 the modulation disappears, so it is clearly a problem of the
 KLM-367A. Do you 
 know what parts should I check?. Thank you for your help.
 
 Kind 
 regards
 
 Manuel
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

2015-08-10 by <backshall1@bellsouth.net>

How about PWM Speed or Effects Speed? They also have their own LFO signal that could be bleeding in somewhere.
Don B.
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From: mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

  
No, it isn't related with the speed of the MG. Once I repaired another KLM-367A board which produced a high speed modulation in the sound, I replaced IC30 and the problem was solved. But this time I've replaced IC30 and IC31 and the slow modulation remains. All other functions are ok.

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El lun, 10/8/15, backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> escribió:

Asunto: Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction
Para: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
Fecha: lunes, 10 de agosto, 2015 20:32


 













Does it change with the MG speed control or does it
seem unrelated to the 
MG?
Don B.


 

From: mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:15 PM
To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due
to battery board 
malfunction
 
 


Hi again. This time I have a Polysix whose VCOs are
always modulated by a 
very slow sine or triangle wave. Of course all modulation
controls in the panel 
and mod wheel are at zero value. If I change the battery
board using a good one, 
the modulation disappears, so it is clearly a problem of the
KLM-367A. Do you 
know what parts should I check?. Thank you for your help.

Kind 
regards

Manuel











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Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

2015-08-10 by moogchild synthdrome

Definetely not, I've double checked it. Effects off, sawtooth wave. Same slow VCOs modulation (about 5 secs per cycle) independently of the speed of the three LFOs in the Polysix. If I replace the KLM-367A the modulation disappears.

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El lun, 10/8/15, backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix] <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> escribió:

 Asunto: Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction
 Para: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 Fecha: lunes, 10 de agosto, 2015 20:57
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
 
 
 
 How about PWM Speed or Effects Speed? They also have
 their own LFO signal 
 that could be bleeding in somewhere.
 Don B.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
 From: mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM
 To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated
 due to battery board 
 malfunction
  
  
 
 
 No, it isn't related with the speed of the MG. Once I
 repaired another 
 KLM-367A board which produced a high speed modulation in the
 sound, I replaced 
 IC30 and the problem was solved. But this time I've
 replaced IC30 and IC31 and 
 the slow modulation remains. All other functions are 
 ok.
 
 --------------------------------------------
 El lun, 10/8/15, 
 backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix]
 <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> 
 escribió:
 
 Asunto: Re:
 [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery 
 board malfunction
 Para:
 PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 Fecha: lunes, 10 de 
 agosto, 2015 
 20:32
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Does 
 it change with the MG speed control or does it
 seem unrelated to the 
 
 MG?
 Don B.
 
 
  
 
 From: 
 mailto:PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:15 
 PM
 To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [PolySix] VCOs
 slightly 
 modulated due
 to battery board 
 
 malfunction
  
  
 
 
 Hi again. This time I have a 
 Polysix whose VCOs are
 always modulated by a
 
 very slow sine or triangle 
 wave. Of course all modulation
 controls in
 the panel 
 and mod wheel are at 
 zero value. If I change the battery
 board
 using a good one, 
 the 
 modulation disappears, so it is clearly a problem of the
 KLM-367A. Do you 
 
 know what parts should I check?. Thank you
 for your help.
 
 Kind 
 
 regards
 
 Manuel
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PolySix] VCOs slightly modulated due to battery board malfunction

2015-08-10 by klosmon

Next step is to begin eliminating possible causes.  Lift the end of R11 
to see if the effect goes away.  Then lift R9.  R11 carries the internal 
mod signal;  R9 carries the signal from the mod wheel.  If the effect 
continues with both of these disconnected, it's coming from somewhere else.
You then have to backtrack through the opamp buffers & demultiplexers 
for the VCO control voltage.
It is sometimes possible on battery-damaged boards for a signal to bleed 
through to other traces.
~G


On 8/10/2015 1:33 PM, moogchild synthdrome moogchild@yahoo.es [PolySix] 
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> Definetely not, I've double checked it. Effects off, sawtooth wave. 
> Same slow VCOs modulation (about 5 secs per cycle) independently of 
> the speed of the three LFOs in the Polysix. If I replace the KLM-367A 
> the modulation disappears.
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> El lun, 10/8/15, backshall1@bellsouth.net [PolySix] 
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> Para: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Fecha: lunes, 10 de agosto, 2015 20:57
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