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DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

Re: [PolySix] DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-22 by Ygar Gnops

Gil,

Funny you should mention this. Just this weekend I
hooked up my old PolySix to find out that the dreaded
battery corrosion has probably occurred. The synth
sounds terrible. After it warms up I can play a few
patches, but then after several minutes everything
goes crazy. I was able to get a decent arp going and a
nice SH-32 pad on top was a great sound. Naturally the
Polysix had a boost from my Yamaha FX900. I doubt I'd
ever use the Poly without effects. But I like it's
darker sound than my newer synths and hope to get it
back to spec.

So I googled for info and found the guy with all the
instructions and pictures on how to clean the keyboard
and replace the battery. I'd never attempt this
myself. Nor would I try adding MIDI myself. Seems way
too complicated. I don't have the time, patience,
skill or knowledge, and would rather pay someone else
to do it right. I'm sure I could manage to extract the
board myself and then mail it off. 

I don't know that I need MIDI for it. If I ever get it
working again, I thought I'd mess around with saving
patches to tape, which I never did, as I didn't have
the manual. But I finally tracked down a PDF of the
manual and I'm intrigued by archaic storage methods
like that. Just curious to see it in action.

Good luck and keep us posted.

-Gary
 
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> http://www.angelfire.com/geek/srlabs/p6retro.html
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Re: [PolySix] DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by greg montalbano

Haven't seen that one before -- for a bare minimum unit, it's not bad.

What are you using to program the PIC?

~GMM

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Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by gil_we

A friend is going to burn it.


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> Haven't seen that one before -- for a bare minimum unit, it's not 
bad.
> 
> What are you using to program the PIC?
> 
> ~GMM
> 
> At 05:28 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:
> >I'm about to build this unit for my P6
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Re: [PolySix] Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by greg montalbano

Let us know how it turns out --
I'm currently playing with the idea of cloning an old Canadian MIDI board 
for the Polysix -- has a bit more to it (keyboard MIDI out, for example), 
but is a lot more complex (& expensive).

~GMM

At 06:28 PM 3/23/04 +0000, you wrote:
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>--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, greg montalbano
><greg.montalbano@u...> wrote:
> > Haven't seen that one before -- for a bare minimum unit, it's not
>bad.
> >
> > What are you using to program the PIC?
> >
> > ~GMM
> >
> > At 05:28 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:
> > >I'm about to build this unit for my P6
> > >
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Re: [PolySix] Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by The Old Crow

I talked to Bojan (author of that MIDI retrofit) a few times via email.  
He certainly knows his stuff.  His disassembled and annotated pages of the 
KLM-366 and KLM-367 microcontrollers are immaculate, and have been very 
helpful in my work trying to my the MIDI version of my replacement KLM-367 
board.

  On that note, I just received the bare boards for the production run of
KLM-367 clone circuit boards.  I now have all the parts needed to have my
assembly house do the production run.  These are the direct drop-in boards
that entirely replace battery-damaged/ruined KLM-367 patch manager boards 
and use the original 8048 microcontroller (not PICs).

  When I have units ready to sell, I'll let this list know.  Those who 
sent emails asking will also receive private emails once they are ready to 
ship.  At least I can say that time is getting close at last.

  Information on this project, for those who do not know about it already,
is here:

http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/

  One note: these are not the 'new' KLM-367 version I am currently working 
on, which will use PIC microcontrollers and feature keyboard and parameter 
MIDI as well as flash-based patch storage (no battery anymore!)  This 
version is many months away yet as the coding for them is quite complex.

Scott Rider
Old Crow's Synth Shop
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Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by gil_we

Bojan's circuit looks very simple ! Actually I think I'm gonna build 
the Midi-to-CV converter as well, for mu MS-10.




--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, greg montalbano 
<greg.montalbano@u...> wrote:
> Let us know how it turns out --
> I'm currently playing with the idea of cloning an old Canadian MIDI 
board 
> for the Polysix -- has a bit more to it (keyboard MIDI out, for 
example), 
> but is a lot more complex (& expensive).
> 
> ~GMM
> 
> At 06:28 PM 3/23/04 +0000, you wrote:
> >A friend is going to burn it.
> >
> >
> >--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, greg montalbano
> ><greg.montalbano@u...> wrote:
> > > Haven't seen that one before -- for a bare minimum unit, it's 
not
> >bad.
> > >
> > > What are you using to program the PIC?
> > >
> > > ~GMM
> > >
> > > At 05:28 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >I'm about to build this unit for my P6
> > > >
> > >
> > 
><<http://www.angelfire.com/geek/srlabs/p6retro.html>http://www.angelf
ire. 
> > com/geek/srlabs/p6retro.html>http://www.angelfi
> >re.com/geek/srlabs/p6retro.html
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> > > >Has anyone built it ? any comments ?
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Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by gil_we

Thanks Crow,

What are the advantages of the 2nd version on the 1st one, except for 
the Midi Through ?

DO I have to prgram anything in order to set the P6 midi channel ?
is it fixed by the PIC programming ?


--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, The Old Crow <oldcrow@o...> wrote:
> 
>   I talked to Bojan (author of that MIDI retrofit) a few times via 
email.  
> He certainly knows his stuff.  His disassembled and annotated pages 
of the 
> KLM-366 and KLM-367 microcontrollers are immaculate, and have been 
very 
> helpful in my work trying to my the MIDI version of my replacement 
KLM-367 
> board.
> 
>   On that note, I just received the bare boards for the production 
run of
> KLM-367 clone circuit boards.  I now have all the parts needed to 
have my
> assembly house do the production run.  These are the direct drop-in 
boards
> that entirely replace battery-damaged/ruined KLM-367 patch manager 
boards 
> and use the original 8048 microcontroller (not PICs).
> 
>   When I have units ready to sell, I'll let this list know.  Those 
who 
> sent emails asking will also receive private emails once they are 
ready to 
> ship.  At least I can say that time is getting close at last.
> 
>   Information on this project, for those who do not know about it 
already,
> is here:
> 
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/
> 
>   One note: these are not the 'new' KLM-367 version I am currently 
working 
> on, which will use PIC microcontrollers and feature keyboard and 
parameter 
> MIDI as well as flash-based patch storage (no battery anymore!)  
This 
> version is many months away yet as the coding for them is quite 
complex.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> Scott Rider
> Old Crow's Synth Shop
> /**/

Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-23 by gil_we

http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6/stuff/p6list1

on the linked page I found this 

"MIDI implementation? It's possible, but is it reliable? Everyone I 
know
who has gotten this modification says their occilators no longer work
properly and the sound just doesnt produce the same tone."

What do you think ? does this make any sense ?




--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, The Old Crow <oldcrow@o...> wrote:
> 
>   I talked to Bojan (author of that MIDI retrofit) a few times via 
email.  
> He certainly knows his stuff.  His disassembled and annotated pages 
of the 
> KLM-366 and KLM-367 microcontrollers are immaculate, and have been 
very 
> helpful in my work trying to my the MIDI version of my replacement 
KLM-367 
> board.
> 
>   On that note, I just received the bare boards for the production 
run of
> KLM-367 clone circuit boards.  I now have all the parts needed to 
have my
> assembly house do the production run.  These are the direct drop-in 
boards
> that entirely replace battery-damaged/ruined KLM-367 patch manager 
boards 
> and use the original 8048 microcontroller (not PICs).
> 
>   When I have units ready to sell, I'll let this list know.  Those 
who 
> sent emails asking will also receive private emails once they are 
ready to 
> ship.  At least I can say that time is getting close at last.
> 
>   Information on this project, for those who do not know about it 
already,
> is here:
> 
> http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/
> 
>   One note: these are not the 'new' KLM-367 version I am currently 
working 
> on, which will use PIC microcontrollers and feature keyboard and 
parameter 
> MIDI as well as flash-based patch storage (no battery anymore!)  
This 
> version is many months away yet as the coding for them is quite 
complex.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> Scott Rider
> Old Crow's Synth Shop
> /**/

Re: [PolySix] Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-03-24 by greg montalbano

Well, see if he'll run off a spare -- I'll buy it from him.

Thanks.

~GMM

At 06:28 PM 3/23/04 +0000, you wrote:
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>--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, greg montalbano
><greg.montalbano@u...> wrote:
> > Haven't seen that one before -- for a bare minimum unit, it's not
>bad.
> >
> > What are you using to program the PIC?
> >
> > ~GMM
> >
> > At 05:28 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:
> > >I'm about to build this unit for my P6
> > >
> >
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Re: DIY Midi for P6 - has anyone built it ?

2004-04-05 by gil_we

Hi,

I managed to burn the PIC in the local electronics dealer.


--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, greg montalbano 
<greg.montalbano@u...> wrote:
> Well, see if he'll run off a spare -- I'll buy it from him.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> ~GMM
> 
> At 06:28 PM 3/23/04 +0000, you wrote:
> >A friend is going to burn it.
> >
> >
> >--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, greg montalbano
> ><greg.montalbano@u...> wrote:
> > > Haven't seen that one before -- for a bare minimum unit, it's 
not
> >bad.
> > >
> > > What are you using to program the PIC?
> > >
> > > ~GMM
> > >
> > > At 05:28 PM 3/22/04 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >I'm about to build this unit for my P6
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