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RE: [prophet2000] Re: Purchasing Sample Disks

2007-07-24 by Tom Hanser

Thank you for your kind and informative reply.

 

I've had the case open once, but it requires the removal of many screws -
I'll have to crack this think open again to see what version I'm running and
how much RAM it has.

 

And, based on some of the responses I'm getting, I better read the manual in
its entirety.  I can load samples off of a floppy, but that's about all.

 

It's hard getting used to using headphones - some notes are placed LEFT,
some are placed RIGHT.  Chords sound the best, since they're placed both
LEFT and RIGHT.

 

*       are you experiencing any read-errors? do you ever see "ER" in the
display?

 

Actually, no.  No problems reading a floppy disk at all, besides the
incredibly slow speed reading a floppy.  How did we ever put up with this?
:-)

 

I'd be interested in trading disks, sure.  I still need some basic piano
sounds, as well as strings, woodwinds, etc.

 

I better start reading the manual, and learning how to dump samples to this
keyboard.  Any further suggestions?  

 

I can NOT dump .wav files to this keyboard, is that it?  

 

Thanks so much,

 

Tom Hanser

Seattle, WA

 

 

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From: prophet2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:prophet2000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of duncan
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:17 AM
To: prophet2000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [prophet2000] Re: Purchasing Sample Disks

 

>>mere $75.00. I was told the floppy drive was "bad", but it indeed
works.<<

that's an exceptional price. mine cost me 800ukp, but that was in
1990! my keyboard version was about 250ukp (with a dead drive) a
couple of years later.

there are chunks of the manual in the files section here, which are
scans that someone (tim- you still here?) did from my 2nd copy a
couple of years ago. the quick start guide is a good place to start...

I have some additional documentation on the expansion kit & the extra
midi-modes (4 & 4B) designed to let you use one sample per midi
channel. these two things were supposed to allow the 2k2 particularly
(the same kit was seldom fitted to the keyboard version) to act as a
multi-output drum machine. so.... how many of these extra sockets are
there? should be 8, & an extra daughter-board fastened inside the lid.

um... let's see.... if you clear all the samples out of memory & then
adjust the size of one of the empty locations, does it go to 128 or
+56? this will tell you how much memory is in each side of the thing.
it took me a while to get used to the way the memory & voices are
split, but I did, & predominantly used the machine in mode 3B, or
bitimbral mode, with the two sounds hard left & right. 

as I mentioned, I got the v4 software with this output kit, & this
introduced the "FO" or forced-outputs option in the "dynamic
allocation" page. so if that option is there when you try it, then you
have v4. even if there are no separate outs.

but they also introduced the crossfade looping with this release.
before this, all you could do was manually nudge the loop points & let
the inc/dec buttons find the zero-crossing points by hitting each one
at least twice for both ends of the loop. 
to complete the crossfading process in v4, one then reselects loop
mode- "the loop that will be crossfaded will be the last one (sustain
or release) that was edited"- & press execute. the display goes to "-"
while it has a think. there's no "undo" so you have to reload the
sample from disc if it makes an arse of itself.

of course, you can just open the lid to see these things! the rom will
have the software version, & the memory expansion & separate outs are
reasonably obvious daughter-boards.

>>"You might hear that on "some" of our samples, but in most cases the
loops are smooth. As you know, the P2000 has that tiny display which
back in the early days of sampling was all that we had to work with.
That made it very difficult to get the loop right."<<

well, he may be right. I'm sure if he remembers making these sounds
for the p2000, he ain't a "kid" anymore! :-) all I know is I managed
to get some pretty good loops happening without the crossfade option
during the two weeks I was running v3.whatever.

there're two possibilities here. either I'm right & the discs were
made before they perfected the crossfade looping (in which case you
can probably improve them yourself if you have v4) or there are bad
sectors on the discs causing little glitches. 

are you experiencing any read-errors? do you ever see "ER" in the
display? I have some discs that do this- keep pressing "exe" until the
whole bad disc has loaded, then check the individual samples: select
sound, press "exe" so the dot comes on, & you right away have one
sample only mapped across it's whole useable range. 

do this for all the sounds in turn until you find the glitchy one(s).
you may be able to reload them individually- sometimes it's worth
having a quick look at the surface of the floppy- or cut out the
glitchy bit of the sample & resave the bank. I've fixed bad samples in
the past by loading them into two locations, cutting the beginning off
one & the end of the other & joining them back together with "append".

there was support in "sound forge" & one or two other apps for the 12
bit samplers including this one, but the midi-transfer takes so long
that I preferred to do all the work on the machine itself.
stevie wonder used the p2000- the small display obviously wasn't an
issue to him, & it does rather force one to use one's ears instead of
the fancy graphic waveform editing of later machines.

what sorts of sounds are you interested in? maybe we can do some
trading..... this would have to be snail-mail, though, as these discs
are proprietary-format. I have a lot of discs here... quite a few
factory things, but mostly stuff I've made myself from sample CDs &
other instruments.

duncan.

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