Sequential circuits samplers

Try to load voices from one disk, eject during load and put in another
disk with vocals...
this is instant cut up technique as the prophet trys to merge the disks
and will do a random montage!
Be carefull not to ruin your floppydrive - no violence needed.

burroughs says: how random is random

Chris

tommy2fish wrote:

> 
> Hello all.I've had a Prophet2000 for a couple of years.Finally looked
> to see if anyone else had one and low & behold I found you(s).I'm not
> very electro-literate and most of the time prefer it that way.The
> machine I have was expanded w/manual and come with 2 BOXES of discs
> (got it used & the store actually saved the other owners work.As
> tempting as it was I ended up discarding all discs & started from
> scratch).I'm big into the cut-up theory(my Prophet now look less than
> a machine than a shrine to Gysin/Burroughs/P-orridge).It worked
> great,I just sampled found sounds and used the easiest
> Sample/loop/play/save.I always liked the idea of playing/using
> something you know nothing about but i want to expand my sound
> collectiv.The mapping thing is just going in one eye and out the
> other,just cant grasp it.I have been editing the samples to make them
> smoothe(intro pops and such)but thats about it.Just wondering if
> anyone wanted to toss up cool tips-n-tricks or fun settings they
> found.Everything else posted seems support-tech based which is fine &
> needed.But lets say you sample a voice speaking what are/can you/I do
> to reprocess it into something weird.Thanks for listening.
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<<Try to load voices from one disk, eject during load and put in another
disk with vocals...
this is instant cut up technique as the prophet trys to merge the disks
and will do a random montage!
Be carefull not to ruin your floppydrive - no violence needed.>>

I think there might be an easier way of doing this... you can load the vocal 
disc normally, then just load the preset/mapping data from the other disc 
using... using the... no, it's gone. 
it's in the manual somewhere- it's a time-saving feature so's if you've made 
a disc you're /almost/ happy with, and you aren't going to edit the actual 
samples anymore, you can just resave your edited parameter data and avoid all 
that clunking and waiting. by the same token, your "old" parameter data can be 
reloaded from disc if you've messed up some parameter or map editing.
 
the keyboard maps are really easy once you get the hang of the interface- 
remember that any vcf/vca adjustments you make are available per sample /and/ 
globally across the whole map (when the + is on).

there should be a chunk of the manual in our files section if you haven't 
seen one. 

I found it helped to start with the keyboard in "left map only" and work on 
one half of the machine at a time. mostly I was using it in 3b, SCI's oddball 
bitimbral mode, with each half of the memory a different instrument. 

I got used to doing things like spreading the samples between the two memory 
halves this way;  which sample number you record to next can affect how you 
build maps. you'd need to keep all the samples together in one half for an 
instrument that was to be played in a bitimbral setup like mine, but an instrument 
that had the whole machine to itself would have samples alternating between 
the two sides. most of the factory discs are built this way, so that unexpanded 
machines still get patches that make sense.

the thing that failed in my 2000 (and luckily I have a 2002 aswell) was the 
keyboard controller chip; WC can't find a replacement so I have a rainy-day 
project to restore the thing using some other method. damn shame- I loved working 
on that keyboard. I'm hoping my p600 doesn't go the same way.

duncan/r.m.i.

--- In prophet2000@yahoogroups.com, chris <chris@n...> wrote:
> Try to load voices from one disk, eject during load and put in 
another
I have actually done this on accident,and although i wasn't fond of 
the samples that came through i thought it interesting.I was fearful 
of trying it again,didn't want to damage anything.To respond to the 
Burroughs quote,it's been a long debate between me and my girlfriend 
about that very thought.At first when i started,to stay random I 
would lift off of sample discs{electric newspapers/drum loop 
cds/jungle noises/halloween sounds/)cds that would have like 100 
different samples.I would set them upside down and without 
looking,pick one & fast forward thru it stopping randomly and sample 
and edit the sound(s)without actually hearing it.After i filled up 
the Prophet then I would turn on the speakers to see what was 
there.She argues that its not random enough because i knew what cds i 
picked out and roughly knew what the sounds sounded like on each 
cd.The argument was fair enough.There have been more but they all end 
up that random doesn't realy exist.Anymore tricks out there?2fish.