You can safely assume EVERY vintage Korg and Yamaha synth was linear VCO. Check the most classic linear VCO from Korg MS-20 for an inspiration. It was used widely in many synths. I've posted it (and bragged about it) several times already, but since you asked, here's 5V single supply linear VCO: sowa.synth.net/schem/vco8/ Roman W dniu 2026-03-20 o 22:18, Thomas Hudson via Synth-diy pisze: > Thanks to everyone on this thread. I am currently working on a MIDI to > Hertz program for the Raspberry Pi (though I can probably move to an > ESP32). Two last questions. Can anyone tell me which commercial synths > were linear response? I know about the Moog Taurus / Behringer Toro. > > Lastly, can anyone suggest a good design / schematic / kit for a > linear VCO? > > TIA > >> On Mar 20, 2026, at 7:39 AM, Mike Bryant <mbryant@futurehorizons.com> >> wrote: >> >> Well yes I was actually doing frequencies like 1004Hz (a telecomms >> test freq) at 8MHz sampling, but as you say the secret with PDM is to >> stay well away from the peak positive and peak negative values. >> However a little bit of high frequency noise injection (from a look >> up table) added to the digital sinewave helped as this also gets >> filtered out. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:*Tom Wiltshire <tom@electricdruid.net> >> *Sent:*20 March 2026 10:37 >> *To:*Mike Bryant <mbryant@futurehorizons.com> >> *Cc:*brianw <brianw@audiobanshee.com>; synth-diy@synth-diy.org >> <synth-diy@synth-diy.org> >> *Subject:*Re: [sdiy] Linear response VCOs? >> There's also differences in *where* the errors are worst between PWM >> and PDM. >> >> Generally, you worry most about the fundamental and lowest harmonics >> of the pulse output frequency, since they're the hardest to filter. >> For PWM, you get the worst fundamental and 3rd harmonic at the >> midpoint value, when the output is a 50/50 square wave. You get the >> worst 2nd harmonic at the 25% and 75% values, since that's where that >> harmonic peaks for pulse waves. This is all fairly "central" and very >> likely to be values you're using all the time. In short, if your PWM >> output is at 100KHz, then 100KHz is what you'll get, and your >> filtering had better be able to deal with that. >> >> For PDM, the central values are the best-case, rather than the worst. >> With PDM, the worst-case comes as you get to extreme values, so <5% >> or >95%. This happens because there's so few pulses going out that >> the effective output rate drops. Imagine we're using a 2MHz PDM >> output to create a 10-bit DAC. If we output our midpoint value of >> 512, we get a lovely squarewave at 1MHz - one period on, one period >> off. If we output a value of 1, we get one period on followed by 1023 >> periods off - a very narrow pulse wave at 2MHz/1024= 1953Hz. That's >> terrible! Of course, as you approach these extremes, the amount of >> fundamental and lower harmonics in such a narrow pulse drops off >> markedly, but still - you probably weren't thinking of a 2KHz output >> when you designed your 2MHz PDM DAC. >> My view is that the secret with PDM is to discard the extremes and >> use the good bit in the middle! >> >> Tom >> >> >>> On 20 Mar 2026, at 09:30, Mike Bryant <mbryant@futurehorizons.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is why you use PDM, not PWM. The pulses are at much higher >>> frequency and easier to filter to the correct DC level with less noise. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Synth-diy <synth-diy-bounces@synth-diy.org> on behalf of >>> brianw <brianw@audiobanshee.com> >>> *Sent:* 20 March 2026 08:22 >>> *To:* synth-diy@synth-diy.org<synth-diy@synth-diy.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: [sdiy] Linear response VCOs? >>> The challenge with PWM is that changing a rail-to-rail square wave >>> into a steady DC value requires a lot of filtering. That filter must >>> remove the sharp rise and fall of the raw PWM output, and thus the >>> DC output value cannot sharply rise or fall either. The problem gets >>> worse if a single channel needs to feed multiple unrelated CV values >>> through a mux+S&H. The slew rate is horrible. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________ >>> This is the Synth-diy mailing list >>> Submit email to:Synth-diy@synth-diy.org >>> View archive at:https://synth-diy.org/pipermail/synth-diy/ >>> Check your settings at:https://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy >>> Selling or trading? Usemarketplace@synth-diy.org >> >> ________________________________________________________ >> This is the Synth-diy mailing list >> Submit email to: Synth-diy@synth-diy.org >> View archive at: https://synth-diy.org/pipermail/synth-diy/ >> Check your settings at: https://synth-diy.org/mailman/listinfo/synth-diy >> Selling or trading? 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Re: [sdiy] Linear response VCOs?
2026-03-21 by Roman Sowa
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