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RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg DSS1-Disk Drive route 66

2007-02-11 by SynthX SynthX

The problem was (Or still is):

1. I sent money after communication through e-mail 2 times prior to sending 
the money
(I had contact with you rich and stacy, tracy or whatever ...).
2. 1 months and 2 weeks later nothing had arrived, e-mailed about this. Got 
promisses of tracking order bla bla bla ..
3. 2 months later still nothing .. further e-mail trading and nothing 
happens. Even provided with
proof of payment from paypal, still nothing. Now 6 months later still no 
drive no money back, nothing.

And thats where we are at now.....


>From: mishon66@...
>Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Korg DSS1-Disk Drive route 66
>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:05:16 -0500
>
>Exactly what was the problem that you had? how did you loose money? I would 
>like to hear your side of the story, I too am on the O1/W list and the only 
>cases are of using the wrong media or.
>
>I work at Route 66 and we have always had a replacement policy, if a drive 
>shows up DOA no problem we replace it. It's not a perfect world and 
>sometimes when things are shipped they can get damaged so we gladly replace 
>them, what we don't do is give a monetary refund to a customer that finds 
>it's not just the drive that needs to be replaced and decides that the 
>repairs are to costly and then wants to return the parts.
>
>This seems to be a growing problem due to the influx of ebay gear and the 
>customers taking that chance that the everything on the unit works.
>
>One of our biggest issues is that we find many customers don't care to read 
>the manual or our install guides which clearly show the media type for ALL 
>the drives we sell and the units we are selling them for as DSDD 720k 
>floppy's, they then try to use HD 1.44 floppy discs with the new drive and 
>come screaming back to us stating that the drive will not work.
>
>  Here is how it works: First off the drive you put in your unit does not 
>dictate what media your unit can use, it is the unit itself that dictates 
>what can and cannot be used. This is due to the FDC controller inside of 
>every piece of electronic gear with a floppy drive, if it is a DSDD 720K 
>FDC then the drive needs to be a 720k drive.
>When you put a disc into your drive the drives chipset does a hand shake 
>with the FDC controller and this is called media detection, if the disc 
>does not match the FDCs requirements/instructions the FDC will send seek 
>the closest ERROR message stored in the units OS like: "BAD DISC" "DRIVE 
>ERROR" "UNFORMATTED DISC" "WRONG MEDIA TYPE" "FLOPPY DRIVE FAIL"
>
>Now many people say that "I have been using HD 1.44 discs with my original 
>drive in my 01/w or EPS16+ or whatever unit with no problem"  Ok...I have 
>too done this and the reason why it is posable is that the older drives 
>being 8 to 10 years older have a much more dumbed down chipset then today's 
>standard.
>These older drives will not reject the wrong media because they do not 
>perform a thorough hand shake with the FDC controller, infact in some older 
>drives these instructions are not even on the chipset.
>On newer drives the on board chipset and the FDC controller perform a vary 
>thorough hand shake and if the wrong media is detected it simply will not 
>work.
>
>This is why if your using HD 1.44 in your older gear that requires DSDD 
>720K discs your making a huge mistake because at some point the drive will 
>fail and you will run into this problem. Also using an HD 1.44 disc in your 
>older gear that requires a DSDD 720k disc is just a bad idea because the 
>720k drive in your unit only saves data in the 720k format not the 1.44 
>format, this and most importantly uses less magnetism to save the data to 
>the disc then the HD 1.44 and will simply fade out or erase it self over 
>time.
>
>There is still a way to save all your work because all the drives we sell 
>will accept a disc with the tape over the hole on the back of the HD 1.44 
>disc and this will allow you to save the data to the correct DSDD 720K 
>discs.
>
>Our drives always work 100% we don't sell crap...all our drives are tested 
>on the unit itself before going out, if the drive is damaged in transit we 
>replace it...it's that simple. If anyone has an issue with us or our 
>product call us at 1-608-365-5006 and we will do our best to work it out.
>
>The A529 was discontinued about 8 years ago due to problems, I did not know 
>that Larry Hendry passed away in an accident that's too bad. He and I 
>worked to gather on the first DSS1/DSSM drives, in fact he was my beta 
>tester.
>
>Rich at www.Route66studios.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: synth_guru@...
>To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 3:10 AM
>Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg DSS1-Disk Drive
>
>
>Route 66 is not to be trusted, lost money to them for a Korg 01/W drive.
>never got the drive, never got my money back. Have read similar reports on
>the 01W list .. Buyers beware....
>
> >From: Peter Bye <pcbye@...>
> >Reply-To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Korg DSS1-Disk Drive
> >Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:20:25 -0600
> >
> >Greetings:
> >
> >I have a brand new Route 66 drive that may be the one. It was intended 
>for
> >a Yamaha DX7IIFD, but I am relatively sure it is the same drive they 
>would
> >sell for a DSS1.
> >The OEM is a Matsushita JU353-3, although any 353-X version should work.
> >It is a 720k SS drive I believe. The Route 66 drive is an Alps 
>Electronics
> >drive if I recall.
> >I was going to e-bay it one of these days, but would sell it for less 
>than
> >I paid for it.
> >
> >Best regards;
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Route 66 is the source. I just fixed the link on my
> >> www.imt.net/~sounddoctorin resource. There were lots of fouled links
> >> associated with the korg dss-1 because route 66 moved their link
> >> apparently on aol..and Larry Hendry who provided a tremendous
> >>resource
> >> page died in a car accident oct. 2005. Some of his links have gone
> >> away. -Bob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >-
> >
>
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