On Monday 05 May 2008 07:30, Malte Rogacki wrote: > At 19:32 Uhr -0400 04.05.2008, Roy J. Tellason wrote: > > It took a little digging since I don't seem to have my ARP stuff handy > > here, but I found my electronic copies of the schematic (which are > > nowhere near as handy for flipping back and forth quick between multiple > > diagrams...) > > > > If you look at say the Upper Voicing Board where those 22uF caps are > > used, you'll see a point that's marked 0V for short release, and -15V for > > long release. This is incorrect! That same error comes up in two > > different places, I forget where the other one is. > > > > Following that from the source, which is the upper right corner of the > > Lower Voicing Board schematic, you can see that point near the sustain > > footswitch jack and some transistors and whatnot quite plainly marked > > "+15V". Since the negative end of all those tantalum caps is tied to > > -15V, then what appears at the top end of them is going to depend on > > where you have the release slider set -- have it set for the longest > > release time and you'll have 30V across all those 25V tantalum caps. > > Hmmmm. > > I'm not quite sure that this is 100% how it works. > > The +15V are the "Sustain Reference"; this is not what is going directly to > the sustain buss. This is (as far as I can see) the voltage passed to the > string control board; and the release slider then sends only part of it > back. > > Indeed the 0V for short release is an error that is also to be found on the > lower voicing board. However the schematic for the string control board > gives those figures: long release -15V, short release +8V. > This is also the way it is printed on the schematic for the voice boards of > the Omni-2. > > So the voltage difference would be 23V max which is pretty close to the 25V > rating of the caps but nominally still within tolerance > > If I'm making any mistakes here please point them out; as I said I'm still > learning this stuff. I could be mistaken about that -- my recollection is a bit fuzzy, and I don't have my printed schematics at hand, the electronic versions I was looking at onscreen being a less-than-optimum substitute (as in better than not having them). I heard about this from a gentleman at the ARP factory whose name I unfortunately can't remember, when I was there last -- in 1977! :-) -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re:arp odyssey mk1 sample and hold problem
2008-05-05 by Roy J. Tellason
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