yea, $200 for x-former seemed a little high, but have you seen what the CMS modules cost? $1300 for a modular VCO. so, im not surprised. their SMALLEST full system is 7k. duncan, this other stuff is GREAT news-thanks. ESPECIALLY the potential of difference in sound w/ digital PSU. resale is not an issue, as i wont be selling this anytime soon, but i am one of those kooks who is a firm believer in the early ARPS being totally distinct beasts, sonically. if THAT'S the case, then i might as well just try to source the power transistors, and maybe voltage regulators, and keep the old PSU. i hate this idea of putting off a potential known issue(voltage drift), rather just nip it in the bud, but maybe i will try to get it to behave as such by leaving it on for a few hours. thanks guys!! --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "duncan" <ferrograph@...> wrote: > > >>previous owner was told by phil it needed a transformer > > replacement, and would cost $200.<< > > $200 for a transformer?? a tad excessive, even with the price of > copper being what it is... besides, as we have said earlier, if you're > getting good 15V rails most of the time & the thing doesn't look or > smell bad, it's more likely to be something in the regulation that's > going bad. check for bad solder joints, especially around the large > power components- the rectifier diodes & the pass-transistors. > see the posts about the juno 106? same thing, more or less. > > yes, & let the thing drone for a few hours (2600s are supposed to be > good at this!) into a guitar tuner, see if it drifts any. of course, > this could all be component breakdown elsewhere in the thing & nothing > whatever to do with the power supply. > > e.g. I had a korg monopoly that would not stay in tune- this turned > out to be the way the thermistors were glued to the oscillator chips; > the glue went bad & the thing started drifting. the 2600 is full of > such design quirks, as I recall. mostly in epoxy-potted blocks, right? > :-/ > > >>i am now considering another approach: > > drop an entirely new, linear power-one PSU in as a replacement. the > > 1.5A unit is only $72, which is relatively very cheap. puts out > > +/-15V. i have used power-one linear units several times before on > > other projects, and have always found them to be rock solid, easy to > > calibrate, and good build quality. is this a horrible idea?<< > > not really so horrible, & it would mean you could use the arp off any > line voltage/frequency. but it wouldn't be stock any more, & that > would affect resale value. personally, I don't care about such things- > to me it just indicates that someone did some restorative work so that > the instrument had a longer active life. I hate this "museum-grade" > nonsense... :-) > > but maybe you can measure the current draw on the existing power > supply first. > the first "gotcha" is likely to be the -15V which, from many > commercial computer grade SMPSU modules is likely to be capable of > only a few hundred mA, compared to a couple of amps at 5V or 15V > positive. your average analogue synth has more or less symmetrical > current draw.... > > the second is going to be radiated HF noise from the power supply. put > it in a faraday cage (you may have seen this approach inside, say, an > emu sampler) & fit ferrite rings on the output cables. > > third, it may just affect the sound a little bit... depends how > "golden-eared" you are, but you'd be replacing an analogue power > supply with a digital one & this will to a small degree affect the > behaviour of the synth, sonically. > > let us know how you get on- that's what this list is for! :-) > > duncan. >
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Re: arp2600 psu (was: where to buy new power transformer?)
2008-09-18 by r_j_d_2.phila
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