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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Boss DR-55 sounding problem - FINALLY!

2008-10-13 by freckles

Oops, how right you are!

I can't hear any flam on the hi-hat, its quite a soft attack on it 
anyway so I might not hear if it was. In the "8" mode the hi-hat lags 
behind by what sounds like a constant amount. At faster tempos it sounds 
ridiculously out of time! Maybe all dr-55s do that - I don't know...

A scope would be better but I suppose I could connect J2 to my 
soundcard, record it and look at the wave. might be wise to go through a 
DI box or something though, don't wanna blow my inputs.


Chris


Scott Nordlund wrote:
> There actually isn't a CPU- the TC5501 is a RAM chip (interesting design!).  
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> I think this would be a very easy problem to solve with an oscilloscope, but things get a little more "interesting" if you don't have one.
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> Do you hear the "flam" sound on the hi-hat sound?  Do the "16" and "8" modes work properly (8 should be half-speed)?  Do they both have the "flam" sound? 
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> Do you have a way of observing what comes out of J2?
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> C42 should determine the tempo, so it's probably fine.
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> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> From: freckles@...
> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:23:59 +0100
> Subject: Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Boss DR-55 sounding problem - FINALLY!
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> Hi Scott
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> thanks for your info, and sorry for the HUGE delay in getting back to this.
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> Its not a start-button problem. regardless of what is programmed in the
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> memory, when the cpu [tc5501] sends out the drum trigger signals, its
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> like each trigger is doubled. its not a semi-quaver apart but maybe 10ms
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> or something, which makes me wonder if the sounds are restarting on the
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> falling edge of the trigger pulse as well? but maybe its more basic than
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> that..
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> my knowlege of electronics is very limited - i don't even understand
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> what's happening in the clock circuit, maybe the problem is there as it
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> connects directly to one of the cpu pins next to the trigger outputs.. ?
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> what would happen if C42 was faulty? What does NP 1/50 mean [next to
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> C42]. I tried replacing the 4011UB but no change.
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> Any help very much appreciated
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> Thanks
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> Chris
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> Scott Nordlund wrote:
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>> I don't have a DR-55 but I downloaded the service manual for my own
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>> amusement (I'm cool like that). I would guess that the note button is
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>> double-triggering, and the sequencer then correctly plays back the
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>> wrongly-entered sequences (where you can turn the tempo down and hear
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>> two successive steps rather than a double-triggered flam), yes? If
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>> I'm understanding this correctly, the rest button shouldn't
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>> double-trigger, and you should replace C45.
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>> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
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>> From: freckles@...
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>> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:10:14 +0000
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>> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Boss DR-55 sounding problem
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>> Hi just wondering if anyone has some advice/tips for me.
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>> I have what appears to be a fully working DR-55 except the drum sounds
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>> are double-triggering. most noticeable is the kick which obviously
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>> flams, making it sound very farty.
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>> I don't have a scope but i've recorded it to my laptop and can see the
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>> double peak.
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>> Anyone have any idea what it could be? I can mail relevant service
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>> manual pages if that helps.
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>> Thanks
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