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K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-21 by Bakis Sirros

hi list,

i have found all the needed parts for my tech to build the two SG boards (KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.
apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in place of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.

are these two transistors basically the same?

i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.
they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters that have to do with voltage:
the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O is -0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)
the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the k30ATM-O is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)
 
but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring conditions, right?
(i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really understand many parts of the datasheets...) 

any help?

many thanks in advance,
best regards,     :-)
Bakis.


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
www. vu-us. com

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by Brian

Not knowing the devices you specify I cannot be certain but I suspect that
one device is n NPN transistor and the other is a PNP.  They are NOT
interchangeable.

 

Regards

Brian G3OYU
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From: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros
Sent: 21 July 2010 6:46
To: vintagesynthrepair; KorgKornucopia group
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg
PS-3100 SG boards)?

 

  

hi list,

i have found all the needed parts for my tech to build the two SG boards
(KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.
apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in
place of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.

are these two transistors basically the same?

i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.
they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters
that have to do with voltage:
the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O
is -0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)
the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the
k30ATM-O is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)

but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring
conditions, right?
(i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really
understand many parts of the datasheets...) 

any help?

many thanks in advance,
best regards, :-)
Bakis.

Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
www. vu-us. com

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by Bakis Sirros

hello,     

thanks for the reply.


the K30A-O datasheet says: TO92 and it has:
1 cathode
2 gate
3 anode


the K30ATM-O datasheet says: TO92 and it has:
1 source
2 gate
3 drain

does these specs above mean they are both same transistors (both NPN or both PNP) ?


many thanks for the help in advance!
best regards,
Bakis.




Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Brian <brian@...> wrote:
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From: Brian <brian@...>
Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:49 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      







Not knowing the devices you specify I cannot be certain but I
suspect that one device is n NPN transistor and the other is a PNP.  They are
NOT interchangeable. 

   



Regards 

Brian G3OYU 



   







From: vintagesynthrepair@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:vintagesynt hrepair@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros

Sent: 21 July 2010 6:46

To: vintagesynthrepair; KorgKornucopia group

Subject: [vintagesynthrepair ] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg
PS-3100 SG boards)? 





   

   







hi list,



i have found all the needed parts for my tech to build the two SG boards
(KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.

apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in place
of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.



are these two transistors basically the same?



i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.

they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters
that have to do with voltage:

the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O is
-0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)

the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the k30ATM-O
is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)



but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring
conditions, right?

(i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really
understand many parts of the datasheets.. .) 



any help?



many thanks in advance,

best regards, :-)

Bakis.



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com

www. vu-us. com

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by Bakis Sirros

btw, in their datasheets, says that both the K30A-O and K30ATM-O are JFET's.

so, i guess, this means that both are not NPN or PNP transistors, right?

am i right?

thanks in advance for your help,
Bakis.



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Brian <brian@...> wrote:
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From: Brian <brian@....uk>
Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:49 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      







Not knowing the devices you specify I cannot be certain but I
suspect that one device is n NPN transistor and the other is a PNP.  They are
NOT interchangeable. 

   



Regards 

Brian G3OYU 



   







From: vintagesynthrepair@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:vintagesynt hrepair@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros

Sent: 21 July 2010 6:46

To: vintagesynthrepair; KorgKornucopia group

Subject: [vintagesynthrepair ] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg
PS-3100 SG boards)? 





   

   







hi list,



i have found all the needed parts for my tech to build the two SG boards
(KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.

apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in place
of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.



are these two transistors basically the same?



i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.

they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters
that have to do with voltage:

the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O is
-0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)

the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the k30ATM-O
is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)



but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring
conditions, right?

(i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really
understand many parts of the datasheets.. .) 



any help?



many thanks in advance,

best regards, :-)

Bakis.



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com

www. vu-us. com

Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by narfman96

Bakis
They are JFET's but you are describing 2 different types. The K30ATM-O is a N channel FET and it crosses to the 2SK30ATM. If the K30A-O is a P channel FET then subbing one for the other will not work. Can you scan the page(s) of the datasheets that describe this and attach them?
Fran
--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
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>
> btw, in their datasheets, says that both the K30A-O and K30ATM-O are JFET's.
> 
> so, i guess, this means that both are not NPN or PNP transistors, right?
> 
> am i right?
> 
> thanks in advance for your help,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> 
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> 
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> 
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> 
> www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> 
> www. vu-us. com
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Brian <brian@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Brian <brian@...>
> Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:49 AM
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> suspect that one device is n NPN transistor and the other is a PNP.  They are
> NOT interchangeable. 
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> 
> Regards 
> 
> Brian G3OYU 
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> From: vintagesynthrepair@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:vintagesynt hrepair@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros
> 
> Sent: 21 July 2010 6:46
> 
> To: vintagesynthrepair; KorgKornucopia group
> 
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair ] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg
> PS-3100 SG boards)? 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> hi list,
> 
> 
> 
> i have found all the needed parts for my tech to build the two SG boards
> (KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.
> 
> apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in place
> of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.
> 
> 
> 
> are these two transistors basically the same?
> 
> 
> 
> i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.
> 
> they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters
> that have to do with voltage:
> 
> the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O is
> -0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)
> 
> the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the k30ATM-O
> is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)
> 
> 
> 
> but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring
> conditions, right?
> 
> (i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really
> understand many parts of the datasheets.. .) 
> 
> 
> 
> any help?
> 
> 
> 
> many thanks in advance,
> 
> best regards, :-)
> 
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> 
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> 
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> 
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> 
> www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
> 
> www. vu-us. com
>

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by Bakis Sirros

hi Fran,

they both are N channel JFETS.

anyway, i replied to your email address and sent you the datasheets attachments.

many thanks,
best regards,
Bakis.



Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

[Doepfer_a100] group owner

www. parallel - worlds - music. com

www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

www. DiN. org. uk

www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

www. vu-us. com

--- On Thu, 7/22/10, narfman96 <narfman96@...> wrote:

From: narfman96 <narfman96@...>
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 2:38 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Bakis

They are JFET's but you are describing 2 different types. The K30ATM-O is a N channel FET and it crosses to the 2SK30ATM. If the K30A-O is a P channel FET then subbing one for the other will not work. Can you scan the page(s) of the datasheets that describe this and attach them?

Fran

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
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>

> btw, in their datasheets, says that both the K30A-O and K30ATM-O are JFET's.

> 

> so, i guess, this means that both are not NPN or PNP transistors, right?

> 

> am i right?

> 

> thanks in advance for your help,

> Bakis.

> 

> 

> 

> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

> 

> [Doepfer_a100] group owner

> 

> www. parallel - worlds - music. com

> 

> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

> 

> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

> 

> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

> 

> www. DiN. org. uk

> 

> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com

> 

> www. vu-us. com

> 

> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Brian <brian@...> wrote:

> 

> From: Brian <brian@...>

> Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:49 AM

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> suspect that one device is n NPN transistor and the other is a PNP.  They are

> NOT interchangeable. 

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> Regards 

> 

> Brian G3OYU 

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> From: vintagesynthrepair@ yahoogroups. com

> [mailto:vintagesynt hrepair@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros

> 

> Sent: 21 July 2010 6:46

> 

> To: vintagesynthrepair; KorgKornucopia group

> 

> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair ] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg

> PS-3100 SG boards)? 

> 

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> 

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> 

> hi list,

> 

> 

> 

> i have found all the needed parts for my tech to build the two SG boards

> (KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.

> 

> apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in place

> of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.

> 

> 

> 

> are these two transistors basically the same?

> 

> 

> 

> i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.

> 

> they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters

> that have to do with voltage:

> 

> the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O is

> -0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)

> 

> the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the k30ATM-O

> is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)

> 

> 

> 

> but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring

> conditions, right?

> 

> (i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really

> understand many parts of the datasheets.. .) 

> 

> 

> 

> any help?

> 

> 

> 

> many thanks in advance,

> 

> best regards, :-)

> 

> Bakis.

> 

> 

> 

> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

> 

> [Doepfer_a100] group owner

> 

> www. parallel - worlds - music. com

> 

> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

> 

> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

> 

> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

> 

> www. DiN. org. uk

> 

> www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com

> 

> www. vu-us. com

>

Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by narfman96

Hi Bakis,

Both of these are N channel JFET's so it will work. The confusion is because the generic datasheet you sent that lists the the 2SK30A-O only shows the magnitude of the voltage and ignores the polarity. All of the other parameters shown are exact except the 2SK30ATM can tolerate slightly more gate current. Make sure the pinout of the TO-92 package matches the schematic and you are good to go.
   
Good luck, Fran
--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
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>
> hi Fran,
> 
> they both are N channel JFETS.
> 
> anyway, i replied to your email address and sent you the datasheets attachments.
> 
> many thanks,
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> 
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> 
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> 
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> 
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> 
> www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> 
> www. vu-us. com
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, narfman96 <narfman96@...> wrote:
> 
> From: narfman96 <narfman96@...>
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 2:38 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       Bakis
> 
> They are JFET's but you are describing 2 different types. The K30ATM-O is a N channel FET and it crosses to the 2SK30ATM. If the K30A-O is a P channel FET then subbing one for the other will not work. Can you scan the page(s) of the datasheets that describe this and attach them?
> 
> Fran
> 
> --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > btw, in their datasheets, says that both the K30A-O and K30ATM-O are JFET's.
> 
> > 
> 
> > so, i guess, this means that both are not NPN or PNP transistors, right?
> 
> > 
> 
> > am i right?
> 
> > 
> 
> > thanks in advance for your help,
> 
> > Bakis.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> 
> > 
> 
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
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> > 
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> > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> 
> > 
> 
> > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
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> > 
> 
> > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> 
> > 
> 
> > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> 
> > 
> 
> > www. DiN. org. uk
> 
> > 
> 
> > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> 
> > 
> 
> > www. vu-us. com
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Brian <brian@> wrote:
> 
> > 
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> > From: Brian <brian@>
> 
> > Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
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> > To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
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> > Sent: 21 July 2010 6:46
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> > To: vintagesynthrepair; KorgKornucopia group
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> > Subject: [vintagesynthrepair ] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg
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Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

2010-07-22 by Bakis Sirros

great!

many thanks for the big help Fran!     :-)

best regards,
Bakis.



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--- On Thu, 7/22/10, narfman96 <narfman96@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: narfman96 <narfman96@...>
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 8:09 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Hi Bakis,



Both of these are N channel JFET's so it will work. The confusion is because the generic datasheet you sent that lists the the 2SK30A-O only shows the magnitude of the voltage and ignores the polarity. All of the other parameters shown are exact except the 2SK30ATM can tolerate slightly more gate current. Make sure the pinout of the TO-92 package matches the schematic and you are good to go.

   

Good luck, Fran

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
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> hi Fran,

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> they both are N channel JFETS.

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> anyway, i replied to your email address and sent you the datasheets attachments.

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> many thanks,

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> Bakis.

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> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

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> www. parallel - worlds - music. com

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> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, narfman96 <narfman96@...> wrote:

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> From: narfman96 <narfman96@...>

> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 2:38 PM

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> They are JFET's but you are describing 2 different types. The K30ATM-O is a N channel FET and it crosses to the 2SK30ATM. If the K30A-O is a P channel FET then subbing one for the other will not work. Can you scan the page(s) of the datasheets that describe this and attach them?

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> --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:

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> > --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Brian <brian@> wrote:

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> > Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] K30A-O same as K30ATM-O (to use for korg PS-3100 SG boards)?

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> > (KLM64) for my Korg PS3100.

> 

> > 

> 

> > apart from the sixty K30A-O transistors, which i will use the K30ATM-O in place

> 

> > of the K30A-O, for the two SG boards.

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > are these two transistors basically the same?

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > i have found the datasheets for k30A-O and k30ATM-O.

> 

> > 

> 

> > they seem to have really the same specifications, apart from two parameters

> 

> > that have to do with voltage:

> 

> > 

> 

> > the VGS for the K30A-O is (min to max) 0.4 to 5 volts, but for the K30ATM-O is

> 

> > -0.4 to -5 volts (they have opposite signs)

> 

> > 

> 

> > the same is valid for the Vgds for the K30A-O is 50 volts, but for the k30ATM-O

> 

> > is -50 volts.(again opposite signs)

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > but, i guess, that this is the same and has only to do with the measuring

> 

> > conditions, right?

> 

> > 

> 

> > (i know almost nothing about electronic engineering, so i cannot really

> 

> > understand many parts of the datasheets.. .) 

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> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

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> > any help?

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> > many thanks in advance,

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> > best regards, :-)

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> > Bakis.

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> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

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> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner

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> > www. parallel - worlds - music. com

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> > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic

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> > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic

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> > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist

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> > www. DiN. org. uk

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