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Finding a dry joint...!?

Finding a dry joint...!?

2011-10-31 by Quazimodo

Hi guys,

Trying to fix a dead DX100 here. I have isolated the problem to a dry joint or open circuit somewhere. If I slightly twist or bend the main circuit board it all springs into life! This could take a while...;c)

Any techs here have any tips that could increase my chances of pinning down the problem...?

Cheers,
TOM

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

2011-11-01 by José Pereira

Hello.

Try to use a magnifying glass and a strong light to check the circuit board and the soldering joints of the components.

Using a multimeter, check if the power supply is distributed thru the board.

You can find the schematics on the following link:

http://soundprogramming.net/synthesizers/yamaha/yamaha_dx100

Good luck!

Best regards.

Jose

Portugal

De: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de Quazimodo
Enviada: segunda-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2011 23:47
Para: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Assunto: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

Hi guys,

Trying to fix a dead DX100 here. I have isolated the problem to a dry joint or open circuit somewhere. If I slightly twist or bend the main circuit board it all springs into life! This could take a while...;c)

Any techs here have any tips that could increase my chances of pinning down the problem...?

Cheers,
TOM

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

2011-11-01 by timothy kosiorek

it might be tedious but I go through and resolder all solder points,it takes a little time but can be well worth it, a lot of times the dry/cold solder joint can not be seen even with the highest magnification.
Tim K.
45 years keyboard technician



To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
From: jose.gouveia.pereira@...
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:19:28 +0000
Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?



Hello.

Try to use a magnifying glass and a strong light to check the circuit board and the soldering joints of the components.

Using a multimeter, check if the power supply is distributed thru the board.

You can find the schematics on the following link:

http://soundprogramming.net/synthesizers/yamaha/yamaha_dx100

Good luck!

Best regards.

Jose

Portugal

De: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de Quazimodo
Enviada: segunda-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2011 23:47
Para: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Assunto: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

Hi guys,

Trying to fix a dead DX100 here. I have isolated the problem to a dry joint or open circuit somewhere. If I slightly twist or bend the main circuit board it all springs into life! This could take a while...;c)

Any techs here have any tips that could increase my chances of pinning down the problem...?

Cheers,
TOM



Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

2011-11-01 by Mike

I'd agree.. Some dry joints I've found were invisible.
Maybe prod the board with a plastic pen to get an idea where the dry joint is located, then resolder everything in that location within a wide radius.
Either that, or as mentioned.. Resolder everything.


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On 01/11/2011, at 6:31 PM, timothy kosiorek <tkosiorek@...> wrote:

> it might be tedious but I go through and resolder all solder points,it takes a little time but can be well worth it, a lot of times the dry/cold solder joint can not be seen even with the highest magnification.
> Tim K.
> 45 years keyboard technician
> 
> 
> 
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> From: jose.gouveia.pereira@...
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:19:28 +0000
> Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?
> 
> 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Try to use a magnifying glass and a strong light to check the circuit board and the soldering joints of the components.
> 
> Using a multimeter, check if the power supply is distributed thru the board.
> 
> You can find the schematics on the following link:
> 
> http://soundprogramming.net/synthesizers/yamaha/yamaha_dx100
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Jose
> 
> Portugal
> 
>  
> 
> De: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de Quazimodo
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2011 23:47
> Para: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Trying to fix a dead DX100 here. I have isolated the problem to a dry joint or open circuit somewhere. If I slightly twist or bend the main circuit board it all springs into life! This could take a while...;c)
> 
> Any techs here have any tips that could increase my chances of pinning down the problem...?
> 
> Cheers,
> TOM
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Finding a dry joint...!? THANK YOU ALL!

2011-11-01 by Quazimodo

Hey thanks to everyone for the replies...;c)

I found the problem today. It was easier than I expected.
I wore glasses, used a magnifying glass and also applied light pressure and the suspect area showed itself..! 

Cheers all.
TOM



--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, timothy kosiorek <tkosiorek@...> wrote:
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> it might be tedious but I go through and resolder all solder points,it takes a little time but can be well worth it, a lot of times the dry/cold solder joint can not be seen even with the highest magnification.Tim K.45 years keyboard technician
> 
> 
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> 
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> From: jose.gouveia.pereira@...
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:19:28 +0000
> Subject: RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?
> 
> 
> Hello.Try to use a magnifying glass and a strong light to check the circuit board and the soldering joints of the components.Using a multimeter, check if the power supply is distributed thru the board.You can find the schematics on the following link:http://soundprogramming.net/synthesizers/yamaha/yamaha_dx100Good luck!Best regards.JosePortugal De: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] Em nome de Quazimodo
> Enviada: segunda-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2011 23:47
> Para: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?   Hi guys,
> 
> Trying to fix a dead DX100 here. I have isolated the problem to a dry joint or open circuit somewhere. If I slightly twist or bend the main circuit board it all springs into life! This could take a while...;c)
> 
> Any techs here have any tips that could increase my chances of pinning down the problem...?
> 
> Cheers,
> TOM
>

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

2011-11-02 by Michael Casino

Hold the circuit board to a good bright light. You may want to use a
magnifying glass and examine all the traces from the opposite side of the
board.

Hold the circuit board to a good bright light. You may want to use a
magnifying glass and examine all the solder joints on both sides of the
board.

 

Mike
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Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Finding a dry joint...!?

 

  

Hi guys,

Trying to fix a dead DX100 here. I have isolated the problem to a dry joint
or open circuit somewhere. If I slightly twist or bend the main circuit
board it all springs into life! This could take a while...;c)

Any techs here have any tips that could increase my chances of pinning down
the problem...?

Cheers,
TOM

Re: Finding a dry joint...!?

2011-11-02 by duncan

I had a bad joint on a keyboard scanner IC in a yamaha AN1X; every fourth key wouldn't work, or something- I forget the exact symptoms.
 
this enormous surface mount processor with about twenty pins on each of the four sides.... & one connection was slightly *lifted*. 

you'd never see it from the top- look at these ICs edge-on too, to see if their legs are all touching the board. a jeweller's loupe or one of those usb microscopes are good for this type of work.

duncan.

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