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Prodigy scaling problem

Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-10 by ambrosia800

Hi there... 

I have a problem with my Prodigy, first version.

After switching it on, the scaling of OSC2 id not working properly anymore.
Even if I turn the trimpot on the rear all to the right, the scaling will not be good... it will be better, but not OK. 

What could be the problem? OSC1 is fine, everynthing else is working.

Re: Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-12 by ambrosia800

Nobody any ideas? 

Regards

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "ambrosia800" <s_carter@...> wrote:
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> Hi there... 
> 
> I have a problem with my Prodigy, first version.
> 
> After switching it on, the scaling of OSC2 id not working properly anymore.
> Even if I turn the trimpot on the rear all to the right, the scaling will not be good... it will be better, but not OK. 
> 
> What could be the problem? OSC1 is fine, everynthing else is working.
>

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-12 by Lorne Hammond

Often scaling for the oscillators interact, so you want to be precise about
osc 1 as if its off a tiny bit it may impact osc2?  That's a guess, not
experience.  Lorne

 

From: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ambrosia800
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:10 AM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem

 

  

Nobody any ideas? 

Regards

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> , "ambrosia800" <s_carter@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi there... 
> 
> I have a problem with my Prodigy, first version.
> 
> After switching it on, the scaling of OSC2 id not working properly
anymore.
> Even if I turn the trimpot on the rear all to the right, the scaling will
not be good... it will be better, but not OK. 
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> 
> What could be the problem? OSC1 is fine, everynthing else is working.
>

Re: Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-12 by ambrosia800

Hi Lorne,

Osc1 is perfect in tune, no problem there.

Only Osc2 impacted..


--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "Lorne Hammond" <lhammond@...> wrote:
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> Often scaling for the oscillators interact, so you want to be precise about
> osc 1 as if its off a tiny bit it may impact osc2?  That's a guess, not
> experience.  Lorne
> 
>  
> 
> From: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ambrosia800
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:10 AM
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Nobody any ideas? 
> 
> Regards
> 
> --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> , "ambrosia800" <s_carter@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there... 
> > 
> > I have a problem with my Prodigy, first version.
> > 
> > After switching it on, the scaling of OSC2 id not working properly
> anymore.
> > Even if I turn the trimpot on the rear all to the right, the scaling will
> not be good... it will be better, but not OK. 
> > 
> > What could be the problem? OSC1 is fine, everynthing else is working.
> >
>

RE: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-12 by Lorne Hammond

Capacitor or trimmer?

 

From: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ambrosia800
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:15 PM
To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem

 

  

Hi Lorne,

Osc1 is perfect in tune, no problem there.

Only Osc2 impacted..

--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lorne Hammond"
<lhammond@...> wrote:
>
> Often scaling for the oscillators interact, so you want to be precise
about
> osc 1 as if its off a tiny bit it may impact osc2? That's a guess, not
> experience. Lorne
> 
> 
> 
> From: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [mailto:vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of ambrosia800
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:10 AM
> To: vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nobody any ideas? 
> 
> Regards
> 
> --- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:vintagesynthrepair%40yahoogroups.com> , "ambrosia800" <s_carter@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there... 
> > 
> > I have a problem with my Prodigy, first version.
> > 
> > After switching it on, the scaling of OSC2 id not working properly
> anymore.
> > Even if I turn the trimpot on the rear all to the right, the scaling
will
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> not be good... it will be better, but not OK. 
> > 
> > What could be the problem? OSC1 is fine, everynthing else is working.
> >
>

Re: [vintagesynthrepair] Re: Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-12 by evening1

Test the trimmer to see if it's functioning properly over it's intended range, and look for shorted caps in the OSC 2 circuit.
Since OSC1 is basically the same as OSC2 you can test various points in the working circuit and compare them with the non-working.

My prodigy had two issues - one was a shorted cap (C7) and the other , which prevented any sort of calibration, was a solder bridge which caused a short. It took about 8 hours to find those....

jmw

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On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:10 PM, ambrosia800 <s_carter@...> wrote:

Nobody any ideas?

Regards



--- In vintagesynthrepair@yahoogroups.com, "ambrosia800" wrote:
>
> Hi there...
>
> I have a problem with my Prodigy, first version.
>
> After switching it on, the scaling of OSC2 id not working properly anymore.
> Even if I turn the trimpot on the rear all to the right, the scaling will not be good... it will be better, but not OK.
>
> What could be the problem? OSC1 is fine, everynthing else is working.
>


Re: Prodigy scaling problem

2012-05-17 by duncan

to the OP- the schematic is in "files" here. a bit rough, but legible.

if you are not comfortable following the schematic & poking around with a DVM, then print out the schematic & take it to a tech.

I'm looking at it now, & I suspect you're going to find that the 3046 array at U3 is misbehaving. if you're feeling brave, you might re-route the voltage control from osc one into osc two (at the TL082, U10). if it's still wildly out (i.e. not even in the same state, let alone the ballpark) then you're looking at a problem with the osc itself, not the voltage control. that probably points at the FET, Q16.

bon chance!

duncan.

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