Wiardgroup

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "konkuro" <konkuro@a...> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> 
> >As I said, I'm using Buchla modules constantly for mainstream 
> melodic parts in television music scores. I've found the Buchla 
> Oscillators have tremendous low end for dance music and/or Drum n 
> Bass type stuff.<
> 
> But the musical genres you name (dance, D/B) are essentially 
> sequencer based. Even a PAIA 2700 oscillator can be used accurately 
> with a sequencer, as each note is individually set. Are you using 
> your Buchla to play melodies with a keyboard? Are you multitracking 
> such melodies?
> 
> Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are you using an analog 
> for that kind of work? I don't see how that can be efficient.

maybe because it sounds good? Or he finds it inspirational to work
that way?

> 
> 
> >I don't understand your blanket statement. If you have oscillators, 
> envelopes, filters and a keyboard (even if it's kinesthetic), why 
> can't you make melodic or 'traditional' types sounds, as opposed to 
> avante garde or 'atonal' as you put it?<
> 
> It has to do with the stability and linearity of the oscillators, 
> etc.  I've never heard any Buchla owner speak highly of the filters.

wait a second...

A Buchla 259 has a volt/octave CV input. The 221, 218 and 219
keyboards all have equal tempered CV outs. I don't see what makes that
system in any way melodically inferior to a Moog modular or ARP 2600
or whatever. If you are referring to the 258 oscillators, I can see
that they are hard to get to track together, because they only have
variable scale CV inputs, but it is possible. The problem of them  not
tracking linearly or being unstable is a myth. The ONLY issue with any
Buchla 200 oscillator preventing anyone from making equal tempered
pitches is that the 258 has no volt/octave calibrated input. I assume
the addition of a fine tune control on the left most CV input of the
258c must have been reaction to users' desire to get the oscillators
to track.

Incidentally, the Buchla Music Box was not intended to focus on
filtering as the major means of tone shaping. Using a 259 as an
example, harmonic content and tonal character can be controlled from
voltage, so there is no need for filtering of the signal later. The
258 oscillators allow voltage controlled sweeps from sine to saw or
square wave, much like a lopass filter sweep with no resonance.

Suggesting that  VCO-VCF-VCA synthesis is required, with a "good
filter", to make "traditional" music is hogwash. The sweeping
resonance sound, made popular by the Moog Ladder, is not a sound
derived from classical music or orchestral instrumentation. Maybe Don
doesn't like the "yeaow" sound of a sweeping resonant lopass filter, I
don't really care for it myself. If nobody ever talked about good
sounding Buchla filters, then why is every synth company jumping on
board with a lopass gate clone of some kind? BTW, the 291 bandpass
sounds great.

Anyhow, Wiards, Serges, Buchlas all have the ability to track a
keyboard. So there is nothing preventing them from playing melodic
music, except the user.

mark