Wiardgroup

Would y'all mind not pissing off the manufacturer until AFTER I get my
system?  Thanks!                                     

The primary difference between now and 4 or 6 months ago is that 4 months
ago Grant *had none of the parts in stock* for many of the modules.  No
Envelator boards or components, for example, very few faceplates of any
kind, no racks, no partner/process for silkscreening...if you ordered a
Wogglebug 4 months ago, it would have been a one-off order and you would
have paid and waited for the individual manufacture of each part.  As
Grant's recent messages have indicated, he has now established all of the
partner relationships necessary for production, and more importantly, he's
*already invested* in stock for 200 more modules.  

Grant's entitled to his own business practices.  If you want a one-man
modular company to be run according to your tastes, then start one.

regards,
Paul


John wrote:
>     Bill I think you?re right. From what Grant just posted I don?t see a
> difference in the availability of the 300 series 6 months ago as compared to
> it being ?back in full production? today. I guess I?m kind of disappointed.
> I don?t know why Grant would fly a flag saying that the 300 is back in full
> swing but then hide all the price + availability info. Isn?t that how the
> 300 has been for the last few years? I was told 4 months ago that if I
> wanted a Wogglebug I should call. That was when the 300 was ?discontinued?.
> He says the same thing now. IMO the 300 is not back in production. No
> disrespect to Grant or Wiard. I support both. Just call it what it is.
> BTW, by announcing ?full production? and then having to call to receive a
> price(which is probably a high one at that) only FUELS speculators and
> definitely keeps the modules out of the hands of people that could really
> enjoy/use them.
> 
>     Regards,
>     John
> 
> 
> On 4/3/07 10:07 AM, "Eyesaw" <eyesaw@ptd.net> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > Hello Grant and Wiard Folks:
> >  
> >        Did this exploitation of your product occur during the 300 series
> > production or after the modules were discontinued? I understand wait times and
> > all but how could there have been a premium while the units were still
> > available retail?
> >        Anytime a product is made that is unique and exists in very small
> > quantities, discontinuation will lead to price spikes. As I remember, Mr.
> > Rittenburg's set was the first "standard", i.e., not the Black one, system
> > produced. That instrument had use value and great intrinsic value ($11K).
> >        The previous sale I can remember was Ryan from AH @ $4600 - and that
> > was not that long before the other, after the line was discontinued. Just
> > pointing out the numbers I know.
> >        I am interested in comments re: the said exploitation. Inflation is a
> > killer and prices go up, but I would hope Grant, that an overfocus on this
> > would be a pointless distraction. If you intend to keep the units in
> > production the preceeding issue becomes mute.
> >  
> > Good Luck and Best Wishes -
> >  
> > Bill  (If I only owned a 300)
> >  
> >>  
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>  
> >> From:  Grant  Richter <mailto:grichter@asapnet.net>
> >>  
> >> To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>  
> >> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:33  PM
> >>  
> >> Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series...  What's Going On?
> >>  
> >> 
> >>  
> >>  
> >> 
> >> There have been problems in the past with speculators buying these
> >> instruments for resale
> >> at a later date. Since my goal is to get them in to  the hands of working
> >> musicians and not
> >> instrument speculators, I now  handle all 300 series sales by telephone only.
> >> 
> >> Yoou can call me at  414-769-0791 and I will be happy ot discuss it.
> >> 
> >> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >> John <inform3r@...> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > This is great news about  the faceplates and Woggle PCB?s but what I?m
> >>> > getting at (and what I  think the other 99% of the list wants to know) is
> >>> > when will the  availability and price be posted?
> >>> > A previous post said ?Back in Full  Production? so I assume the above
> >>> > info is somewhere?
> >>> > 
> >>> >  Regards,
> >>> > John
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > On 3/21/07 10:44 PM, "Grant  Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > >  
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > The faceplates are being  silkscreened now.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Just got Woggle Bug PCBs, rest of  PCBs still on order.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Waiting for Perkins-Elmer  Vactrols.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > Everythings moving along, but this is  thru-hole technology. Harder to
> >>>> get than
> >>>> > > surface 
> >>>> > >  mount parts. Longer lead times and more expensive than ever before.
> >>>> Most
> >>>> > > component 
> >>>> > > prices have doubled since  2002.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > in 2002 aluminum was $1.00 a pound, today it  is $2.50 a pound.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > The size of the American deficit  makes the dollar weaker in a global
> >>>> > > marketplace.
> >>>> > >  
> >>>> > > That is a statement of economic fact, no political content  intended.
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >> John
> >>>> > >  <inform3r@> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>> > >> > It?s been  a while since the announcement. When are we going to
> hear
> >>>>>> > >>  > what?s happening with the 300 series? Did I miss something?
> >>>>>> >  >> > 
> >>>>>> > >> > Regards,
> >>>>>> > >> >  John
> >>>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>>> > >> > On  3/21/07 1:39 PM, "loopcycle" <loopcycle@> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> >  
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>> >  >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>> > >>>  > > i would like to see continued development in the 1200
> series.
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i was really looking forward to a new  oscillator!
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i would be very excited to see new  developments, whatever
> form they
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > take,  fiberglass or otherwise.
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i know i am not  speaking only for myself here.
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>> >  >>> > > hans
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>> >  >>> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>   <mailto:wiardgroup%
> >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>> > >>>  <mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >>>>>>>> > >>>  > > "Grant Richter" <grichter@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> >  >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>  > >>> > > but, would this work for 300? isn't one of
> the  points of the
> >>> > 300 to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >  >>> > > be fully shielded?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >  >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > The 300 series  will stay exactly as it is. I was
> refering to
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >  fiberglass panels only for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >  inexpensive systems like Frac-Rac or Euro-Rack.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>  > >> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>> > >>> >  >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>> > >> >
> >>>> > >  
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > >
> >>> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>   
> >> 
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