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On 4/4/07 2:01 PM, "plord@there.org" <plord@there.org > wrote:

Grant's entitled to his own business practices. If you want a one-man
modular company to be run according to your tastes, then start one.

regards,
Paul


I already happen to own 300 series modules + 1200. If you read the end of my email you'll see that I support Grant and Wiard, as well as having a lot of respect for him as a designer. Just because I'm confused or disagree with his latest decision doesn't mean I have to start my own modular company. Calm down there.

-John




John wrote:
> Bill I think you?re right. From what Grant just posted I don?t see a
> difference in the availability of the 300 series 6 months ago as compared to
> it being ?back in full production? today. I guess I?m kind of disappointed.
> I don?t know why Grant would fly a flag saying that the 300 is back in full
> swing but then hide all the price + availability info. Isn?t that how the
> 300 has been for the last few years? I was told 4 months ago that if I
> wanted a Wogglebug I should call. That was when the 300 was ?discontinued?.
> He says the same thing now. IMO the 300 is not back in production. No
> disrespect to Grant or Wiard. I support both. Just call it what it is.
> BTW, by announcing ?full production? and then having to call to receive a
> price(which is probably a high one at that) only FUELS speculators and
> definitely keeps the modules out of the hands of people that could really
> enjoy/use them.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> On 4/3/07 10:07 AM, "Eyesaw" < eyesaw@ptd.net > wrote:
>
> > ;
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Grant and Wiard Folks:
> >
> > Did this exploitation of your product occur during the 300 series
> > production or after the modules were discontinued? I understand wait times and
> > all but how could there have been a premium while the units were still
> > available retail?
> > Anytime a product is made that is unique and exists in very small
> > quantities, discontinuation will lead to price spikes. As I remember, Mr.
> > Rittenburg's set was the first "standard", i.e., not the Black one, system
> > produced. That instrument had use value and great intrinsic value ($11K).
> > The previous sale I can remember was Ryan from AH @ $4600 - and that
> > was not that long before the other, after the line was discontinued. Just
> > pointing out the numbers I know.
> > I am interested in comments re: the said exploitation. Inflation is a
> > killer and prices go up, but I would hope Grant, that an overfocus on this
> >; would be a pointless distraction. If you intend to keep the units in
> > production the preceeding issue becomes mute.
> >
> > Good Luck and Best Wishes -
> >
> > Bill (If I only owned a 300)
> >
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: Grant Richter >
> >>
> >> To: wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com
> >>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:33 PM
> >>
> >> Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: 300 series... What's Going On?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There have been problems in the past with speculators buying these
> >> instruments for resale
> >> at a later date. Since my goal is to get them in to the hands of working
> >> musicians and not
> >> instrument speculators, I now handle all 300 series sales by telephone only.
> >>
> >> Yoou can call me at 414-769-0791 and I will be happy ot discuss it.
> >>
> >>; --- In wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com ,

> >> John <inform3r@...> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > This is great news about the faceplates and Woggle PCB?s but what I?m
> >>> > getting at (and what I think the other 99% of the list wants to know) is
> >>> > when will the availability and price be posted?
> >>> > A previous post said ?Back in Full Production? so I assume the above
> >>> > info is somewhere?
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > John
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 3/21/07 10:44 PM, "Grant Richter" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>>> > >
> >;>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > The faceplates are being silkscreened now.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Just got Woggle Bug PCBs, rest of PCBs still on order.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Waiting for Perkins-Elmer Vactrols.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Everythings moving along, but this is thru-hole technology. Harder to
> >>>> get than
> >>>> > > surface
> >>>> > > mount parts. Longer lead times and more expensive than ever before.
> >>>> Most
> >>>> > > component
> >>>> > > prices have doubled since 2002.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > in 2002 aluminum was $1.00 a pound, today it is $2.50 a pound.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > The size of the American deficit makes the dollar weaker in a global
> >>>> > > marketplace.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > That is a statement of economic fact, no political content intended.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> ,
> >> John
> >>>> > > wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>> > >> > It?s been a while since the announcement. When are we going to
> hear
> >>>>>> > >> > what?s happening with the 300 series? Did I miss something?
> >>>>>> > >> >
> >>;>>>> > >> > Regards,
> >>>>>> > >> > John
> >>>>>> > >;> >
> >>>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>> > >> > On 3/21/07 1:39 PM, "loopcycle" wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>; >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i would like to see continued development in the 1200
> series.
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i was really looking forward to a new oscillator!
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i would be very excited to see new developments, whatever
> form they
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > take, fiberglass or otherwise.
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > i know i am not speaking only for myself here.
> >>>>>;>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > hans
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > --- In wiardgroup@yahoogro ups.com
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:wiardgroup%
> >> 40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>> > >>>; ,
> >>>>>>>> > >>> >; > "Grant Richter" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >; >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > but, would this work for 300? isn't one of
> the points of the
> >>> > 300 to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > be fully shielded?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > The 300 series will stay exactly as it is. I was
> refering to
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > > fiberglass panels only for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > inexpensive systems like Frac-Rac or Euro-Rack.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>> > >> >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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