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I have a working Envelooper module with software.

It is quite fascinating from an engineering perspective.

I have been working for a year or so to try and find if it can do anything musical.

It can in the sense of Subotnick's "player piano" technique (4 Butterflys). It excels at "bug" 
music, but I have yet to find a way to make it relevant to the tradition of western music.

I do keep trying and experimenting. I have man-years invested in development, I can not 
simply "forget about it", but it would tank in the market as it is today. Fall like a rock, 
submarine anchor, you get the idea.


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, frank death <maldoroar@...> wrote:
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> I can only conceptualize the Envelooper, as i havent seen a mock-up front panel for it. 
Im just really curious about its history, its applications, and also of course, its possible 
availability. I wonder if its vaguely related to other gestural synthesis technology that you 
see in stuff used by Stellarc, for example.
>   So my conceptual understanding of it may be wrong, i dont know. Its interesting that 
many software synthesizers have multi-point envelopes, and these enable the user to 
program very weird, very musical & evolving patches. So imagine having say 10 or more 
multi-point (ie. not just an ADSR) envelope outputs that would allow you to shape 10 or 
more parameters (eg. oscillator frequency) in the synthesizer... But im also wondering if 
you could use a sequencer to achieve this?
>   Perhaps the Envelooper sits at the realm of digital functionality where it serves only to 
bring real-time control to otherwise common digital synthesis functions. But again, in an 
analog environment (say, as part of a full 300 system), the Envelooper (conceptually) 
sounds like it would be very exciting.
>  -Matt
> 
> Dennis Verschoor wrote: 
> >             Yeah i am still kinda excited about the envelooper. But i am afraid that due the 
lack of interest it will never be released. Cheers, Dennis On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:51 AM, 
frank death < maldoroar@yahoo. com > wrote: 
> >             Hello All 
> > im not sure if this is the best way to raise this subject & its kind of directed to 
everyone & if Grant wants to let us know whats being dreamed up then that would be 
great. 
> >   Ive been reading up about the Wiard Envelooper & im wondering if that module is 
still going to happen? On paper it sounds like a fantastic idea & if i understand it correctly 
it would allow the user to draw in multi-staged/ multi-looping envelopes that with the 
push of a button trigger the envelope shapes to wherever they have been assigned in the 
synthesizer. I wonder also exactly how one draws in an envelope? Does it mean that you 
use the Wave256 software (as you would with the Waveform City)? 
> >   Grant also mentions gestural synthesis which reminds me of how a conductor directs 
individual musicians within an orchestra & the sum of instruments play the music. To me 
the idea of the Envelooper & gestural synthesis modules (in theory)  bring the modular 
synthesizer under greater control of the user & the greater the control & the more refined 
the instrument- the greater its musical functionality. Of couse everyones idea of what 
music is varies a lot however the potential for modules with gestural functions sounds 
extremely interesting to me (and im sure many others too!). 
> >    In fact something like an oscillator with gestural functions would also be very 
interesting. One starts to think of all kinds of inputs & outputs communicating with each 
other all at the touch of a button. Only problem is that at some point it begins to resemble 
sampling and many modern keyboard instruments do have buttons that provide multi-
functions. However theres a massive distinction between a digital synthesizer & a 300 
series module with its functionality! 
> >   Also last year Grant invited ideas & discussion for potential functions for future 
modules and im wondering if people are still thinking about it? Id love to see a module 
with 2 to 4 different recording/looping ICs that the user could cross-mix audio to create 
multi-loops all under the ability to shift eachs frequency & duration. I actually want to 
experiment on this idea myself. But yeah- id like to see a Wiard Delay/Looper/ Frequency 
Shifter for sure. 
> >  Anyway- just wanted to keep things ticking over & would like to hear any thoughts. 
Cheers 
> >  -Matt 
> >  -- Music at: http://robotdj. net/?dj=mono- poly http://www.twango. com/channel/ 
mono-poly. public 
> >  http://www.myspace. com/zond3 http://www.myspace. com/bomono 
> >
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