Wiardgroup

Hi All,
     To my great horror and embarrassment I discover that I misspelled 
 my SUBJECT line…
The ONE piece of text most often repeated-
Oh well, lest I succumb to the sin of pride.

First off: THANKS
Thanks to all of you who posted your thoughts so far
And no less THANKS 
To those of you who have READ them…
A receiver is just as much work as a transmitter

This expands on my motivation for the original post.
It was the member list that moved me. I wanted to do something that 
would give us all something to READ; something with a little meat on 
the bone. And y'all have done us proud in no more than 24 hours!

Liquidcolor said:

It's a testament to the allure and  mystique of the Wiard modular that 
there are more members in this group than the Serge group.

!!! - that's interesting , and  my surmise is that this list is as 
deep as it is wide. I just sprinkled the surface with a little bit of 
food and look what surfaced!!!!!
I observe that there are also many more members than there are 
'customers' (and my inner Tom Poston urges me to theorize (at the risk 
of Grant's justifiable irritation) that this is a testament to the 
price of the modules) but I  think that non-Wiard folks have PLENTY to 
say about Wiard and it is to the benefit of everyone to hear it - most 
particularly the 'the designer'. IMO  The open nature of this group 
comprises it's greatest potential to do good. There was not a single 
response to my original post that did not contain something useful to 
me. 
 


Aurealialuz said:
idiocy posted to the web is eternal now, i'm  sure as shit not going 
to try to negatively immortalize myself  anymore than i already have. 
95% of my posts or replys to people get composed and then deleted. 
"oh, no one cares anyway and i'll  probably just end up looking 
stupid." 

Point taken. 
These groups are publishing - plain and simple. And there is risk in 
exposing oneself. The comment above bowled me over with it's full-on 
honesty. Aurealiuz NAILS a serious issue there. How much of that 95% 
aborted posts would have helped a reader further down the food chain? 
On the other hand I've seen groups so submerged in trivial flotsam 
that syntht's ratio of:

"it's like mining diamonds (10 tons of earth moved per carat)."

Is generous.

Clearly balance is required for these forums to work.
 I submit that a strategy for balance could be founded on the 
principles of fair debate. 

Bill said:
A good critical exchange should leave both (or multiple) parties with 
valuable information of the points of view exchanged, and should 
enable them to choose in the future based on  info they did not have 
before. This enriches everyone.

This is great stuff. Herein contained is a pretty good litmus test for 
deciding whether to post a remark in a public forum. In a word:
CONTENT. Is there INFORMATION in what you are about to say? 

But dr…..
Anything I think is information Right? Virtue or Vitriol- 

In my view , if your opinion contains no information other than 
X=scumlicking imbecile, (especially if this august assertion is 
unsupported by evidence) then it contains no information  and I think 
that it should be confined to private channels. Now everything can be 
twisted semantically (even math)(!) but I believe that anyone who, in 
good faith, wishes to communicate and not merely insult can discern 
for themselves whether  a remark contains INFORMATION or not. I would 
add my own  clarification to Bill's remark above and that is that , in 
a public forum, one never knows what 'info they did not have before' 
and so the basics can't be repeated enough and anyone who sneers out 
loud at even the most trivial and basic contributions do great harm to 
the medium.

In deference to reality I make a BIG distinction between public forums 
and private email though. I feel that duty binds to participation in 
an open public forum. But, in the realm of private communication, I'm 
an anarchist. In that realm (to quote Henry V): "a man's soul's his 
own"

With the barest tap on the faucet this group produced a whole pond of 
ideas overnight. My personal opinion is that Grant started Wiard as a 
message in a bottle to find out if anyone is out there. If nothing 
else, this thread proves that we are out here and there are a LOT of 
bottles in the water.
Thanks again for proving it