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Re: What's the max levels you get from the main outs?

2005-03-24 by paolovalladolid

I am very lucky to be in a band where the musicians listen to me when
I ask them to set their preamp levels. :)

I'll take your recommendation of a compressor into consideration.  For
now I guess I'll keep recording everybody at -12 db.

Paolo

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "cosine... zero" <cosinezero@y...> wrote:
> Well, remember too that you're talking about mixing musicians. They
> often don't understand proper recording levels and crank everything
> they own up to 10. When dealing with electronic gear, the output levels
> are often much lower than guitarists have their own gear set to;
> especially if the guitarists are using distortion (basically
> super-compression) and other effects that can make apparent volume much
> much higher than an un-processed sound.
> 
> Again, I might recommend a compressor for your effects chain over the
> xx7... if not only to put yourself on the same playing field as some of
> the distortion + preamp folks.
> 
> cosinezero
> 
> --- paolovalladolid <paolovalladolid@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I'm just trying to match the XL7's levels to those of my bandmembers
> > when I record us.  The AudioDesk manual just says to get everything
> > as
> > close to 0db as possible without clipping and doesn't really say any
> > more about controlling the input levels.  So at present, I have them
> > turn their preamps down to match the XL7.
> > 
> > At our last jam session, I tried to jam with them on the CP70 patch
> > from the Vintage Collection ROM.  The composer of this particular
> > music liked this sound the best out of the electric piano sounds I
> > have in the XL7.  Unfortunately, I couldn't get more than -24db to
> > -20db output for that patch even after I did a Quick Edit and bumped
> > the max velocity to 127.  So I was drowned out by the other two. 
> > Fortunately, she's willing to consider an organ sound as an
> > alternative - those seem to be loud enough to hang with the other
> > instruments.
> > 
> > Paolo
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "cosine... zero" <cosinezero@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > REALLY depends on the patch. A good kick hitting the resonance of
> > the
> > > filter... you can clip a mixer easily. 
> > > 
> > > It has a pretty wide dynamic range. A good compressor can level
> > that
> > > out a bit, tho may not be appropriate for all uses.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > cosinezero
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- paolovalladolid <paolovalladolid@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I've started recording our band's jam sessions and am learning
> > all
> > > > about input levels for recording.
> > > > 
> > > > I use a MOTU 828MkII and AudioDesk 2 software to record.  The
> > highest
> > > > level I can get out of the XL7, according to the AudioDesk Audio
> > > > Monitor window, is around -12db to -10db.  
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > Is this typical for you guys when you record with your Command
> > > > Stations?
> > > > 
> > > > The manual says the max level is +6db, but I haven't found a
> > patch
> > > > that loud.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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