Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hi All,

I agree with Bryant.

I own a PX-7 and a Vintage PRO with additional several ROMS.
Although not contributing actively I have followed the group the last
couple of years and when spam hit a high I started to sent complaints
about spammers to <groups-abuse@...-inc.com>.
Usually shortly after the complaint was filed I got a message by
Yahoo! customer support and the spammer disapeared (was removed).
There might be other members doing similar. 
I stopped this activity for several reasons 1) my Gmail account is
quite good in filtering out spam 2) it took a lot of time to write to
groups-abuse. 3) Yahoo customer support rather have that the owner or
moderator did the clansing: "If you are the Owner or Moderator of the
Group, you can permanently ban a member by following these steps: . .
." 4) No reply from e-mails to Owner/Moderator. 5) Yahoo! customer
support at some point suggested to start a new group to be able to
control spam.  
The bad about this is that all history ("how to" articles, templates
etc.) of the group is gone and has to be rebuild somehow.


*** start *** Answer to question can a new moderator be appointed  ***
Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.

Due to our Privacy Policy, we cannot appoint a new owner/moderator to
the group. If the owner cannot be contacted, one alternative is for you
to create your own group and send out invitations to those people who
you would like to join your new group.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Groups.
*** end *** Answer to question can a new moderator be appointed  ***

List of spammers.
At a certain point I found out there is a regularity in spammer names
and I compiled a list of all the spammers I reportred to abuse.
Below the list of all spammers:

20070804 
chani-kopnicky594@... <chani-kopnicky594@...>

20070804
welcomemilitary <welcomemilitary@yahoo.com>

20070727
maneisha-mccarthy268@...
<maneisha-mccarthy268@...>

20070719/20
savanna-terk182@... <savanna-terk182@...>

20070715
skye-ollmann696@... <skye-ollmann696@...>

20070624
bikerguyz0294 <bikerguyz0294@yahoo.com>

20070619
tatto Osh <tt_sh15@...>

20070611
skye-ollmann398@... <skye-ollmann398@...>

03-june-2007
chani-kopnicky198@... <chani-kopnicky198@...>

31-may-2007 cc to XL-7owner@yahoogroups.com
skye-ollmann879@... <skye-ollmann879@...> (2
spam)

21-may-2007
maneisha-mccarthy801@...fo
<maneisha-mccarthy801@...> (2 spam)

11may-2007
skye-ollmann782@... <skye-ollmann782@...> 

6-may-2007
sherry-heath665@... <sherry-heath665@...> -
starting 02may2007
erika-haven997@...
<erika-haven997@...> - starting 02may2007
muriel-berggren151@... <muriel-berggren151@ubesokewl.info>
 - starting 02may2007

18-apr-2007
"sherry-heath173@tafeisgud.info" <sherry-heath173@...> 

07-apr-2007
maneisha-mccarthy882@nbvfdg.info <maneisha-mccarthy882@...> (5
spam messages)
erika-haven730@... <erika-haven730@...> (2 spam
messages)
teisha-reifel396@... <teisha-reifel396@...> (1
spam message)

nuala-alexander172@...
lily-gannaway111@...
sherry-heath893@...
Euro_pe_1326@... 
sherry-heath870@...
"sahil_flover" <sahil_flover@...>
"cherryninasc" <cherryninasc@...>
Maris Carlos <mariszcarlos@...>
'maneisha-mccarthy988@...'
"martinacute1" <martinacute1@...>
"stellacute1" <stellacute1@...>
Tomas Link (AKA tomas_link_1991) Tomas Link <tomas_link_1991@...>

The best thing would be to have an active moderator, as Bryant
explains if you do not weed out the spammers the spam messages will
overflood the forum. This will make the forum completely useless.
As <groups-abuse@...-inc.com> is getting less willing to
intervene this might become a real problem.

If customer service cannot contact the owner/moderators of the group
then the best thing would be to organize an election to get new active
ones. 


Regards,
Bengeo.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant" <bryant@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve,
> 
> I generally do not antagonize people but this is one of the stupidest 
> things I have read.  If you like to do research so much, look at when 
> I joined the group.  That information is as readily available as how 
> many post I have made.
> 
> The spam problem existed before I came here.
> 
> It is also going to get worse.
> 
> Just in case you are not familiar with how it works I will give you a 
> rundown.
> 
> Spammer joins a group to see if it is moderated and places test spam 
> message.  If the message is not deleted and gets a click thru, it is 
> considered to be a spamable group and is added to a list.
> 
> The list is sold to other spammers.  This creates a snowball effect.
> 
> Over time spammers eventually overrun the group.
> 
> This group is in the process right now.
> 
> You should not get any spam in any group that is moderated.  I belong 
> to several groups and I moderate several groups.  The spam is 
> controled in all but this one.
> 
> If you are not interesed in a new group then let it go. Continue here 
> with your spam.
> 
> Bryant
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> >
> > (1) Usually the Yahoo groups I belong to have about the same amount 
> of 
> > spam. However, over the past week or so, there seems to have been 
> an 
> > increase in the XL-7 group spam.
> > 
> > (2) Just for the fun of it, I checked to see what other 
> posts "Bryant" 
> > had here before his This-group-is-over-run-by-spam . . . So-join-my-
> > group" post. I FOUND NONE!!!!
> > 
> > So, the question is, why did someone who evidently did not post 
> > anything here before suddenly start complaining and trying to get 
> > others to join his group? (A good follow-up question is why the 
> > increase in spam in this particular group all of a sudden.)
> > 
> > Just wondering.
> >
>