Wow. Bohemian. Sorry you had such a bad experience with the XP-50. Despite the fact that I have a pretty healthy complement and IMO good sense about synths, I don't know crap about the XP-50 except that perhaps I used one once in a rehearsal studio in NYC. Other than that I always just passed it by (and all the other XP synths too)in the stores because absolutely nothing about them caught my eyes (or ears). Frankly I always wondered who was buying them while things like the Waldorfs were around and better korgs, etc. (those are the ones still demanding a half decent used price btw). Anyway after reading about your poor experiences (and especially the part where you said you paid a lot of money over months and months to a guy for lessons on how to use it . . . . sorry to hear that too . . .), I had to go check out some reviews of it online to see whether you were just completely off your tree or not. Well, the reviews are quite mixed--which tells me the synth is likely as I suspected perhaps intuitively (or luckily): probably crap. The reviews sum up into two camps as far as I can see (discounting the completely off the wall true believers or madman reviews): Either the reviewer seems to love it to death and defends it, but usually has a textual style of writing that seems to indicate they are a little lower than the average intelligence of a monkey, OR the reviewers are pretty pissed at the instrument and appear more mad at themselves for being so dumb to pick it up in the first place, hoping to learn from their obvious mistake-meaning they are smarter than the first bunch. So, you are right. You made a mistake. But don't make the mistake to lump everything into one pile. Every company has some clunkers. Also these things are complex instruments. Many companies have only just begun to realize that less than total gearheads want to play them too and can be a good source of purchasers. So things like the MC505 and even the Emu XL7 and MP7 are abounding. They have deceptively easy interfaces. I say deceptively because at first, many of the true close-minded gearheads (nerds)(just as bad as the truly clueless, IMO) thought that things like the MC-303, 505, electribes, etc, etc, must be crap and not *real* because they were so easy, any idiot could pick one up and press play (infringing on their nerdiness). But the reality is that those tools are just easier to use, yet among the most powerful music machines around. Both MC-505 and the XL7 have the most rocking, deep and highly evolved synthesis engines around. The Roland style of sample playback synthesis is VERY similar to that of E-mus except that E-mu shows more of its background as a modular synth company way back when with far more modulation sources and destination than the Rolands (although Roland had modulars too--but they never were their sole focus, like with E- mu. The MP7/XL7 seem to kick the ass of the MC-505 in the sound department because of this and mainly because they are have room for expansion ROMS, so the vast majority of users -- who are non- programmers (it ain't that easy)--won't get too bored. But as discussed here before, despite the fact that the XL7/MP7 has a lot of sequencer channels, the MC-505 has some pretty useful smooth moves when it comes to sequencing that the E-mus haven't even touched yet (maybe they will soon hopefully). For novice players or those who are not using either machine to its fullest, many of these differences are lost. No doubt, the best "turn it on, hit the buttons and make it go" groovebox out right now are the E-mus, but get deeper into real stuff, and things get to be less clear. The MC- 909, if it has expansion roms, and it doesn't trash all what was good about the MC-505 could reign king for a while. Just keep your finger's crossed, because when Yamaha announced the RS7000 there was a lot of hope too. But Roland's background is better (despite the XP boards) than Yamahas in this realm so I am more hopeful. Get over the XP, learn from errors and move on. (and don't waste time flaming each other either, who's more stupid? The first flamer or the second?). Remember, you are only as smart as the person you respond to. I am not proud. :) Ravi
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Re: Shots of the new Roland MC909
2002-09-21 by Ravi Ivan Sharma
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