Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hello all,
      Just wanted to say that I emailed Emagic regarding the 
possibility of an editor for the XX-7 series for SoundDiver.  They 
said they had no current plans to write one.  Major bad news...
       I would be very willing to PAY! for a decent editor for these 
machines (and an EOS sampler editor would be great, too...).  These 
are such incredible machines, but without an editor you are hamstrung 
using them.  Very frustrating.  I would hazard a guess that sales of 
these kinds of instruments would soar simply if a good editor were 
made available.  This is a major oversight in the marketing 
area...       
      Somebody mentioned using the AN200 a while back and I have to 
agree - I've got an AN1x and the editor makes it a joy to work with.  
I do tweak it from the front panel a lot, but for the more complex 
stuff, the editor takes all the pain away.  Wake up E-mu - you NEED 
to do this... You've got the sonic excellence - now you just need to 
work on the user interface.  
      I am pretty disappointed with Emagic, I must say.  To not 
support these machines is criminal.  However, they didn't say they 
wouldn't do one - just that it wasn't on the agenda at this point in 
time... So, maybe they will change their minds and make it a 
priority... Would sure be nice...  Maybe we all need to fire off 
emails to them to help them make the decision ;)  Squeaky wheels and 
all...

               Flibfree

Agreed. Korg's MicroKorg certainly has an ease-of-use edge in this 
area!

/.e

Midiquest is supposed to have an editor out "by fall 2003" which I 
hope means soon...
Dana
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "flibfree" <flibfree@w...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>       Just wanted to say that I emailed Emagic regarding the 
> possibility of an editor for the XX-7 series for SoundDiver.  They 
> said they had no current plans to write one.  Major bad news...
>        I would be very willing to PAY! for a decent editor for 
these 
> machines (and an EOS sampler editor would be great, too...).  These 
> are such incredible machines, but without an editor you are 
hamstrung 
> using them.  Very frustrating.  I would hazard a guess that sales 
of 
> these kinds of instruments would soar simply if a good editor were 
> made available.  This is a major oversight in the marketing 
> area...       
>       Somebody mentioned using the AN200 a while back and I have to 
> agree - I've got an AN1x and the editor makes it a joy to work 
with.  
> I do tweak it from the front panel a lot, but for the more complex 
> stuff, the editor takes all the pain away.  Wake up E-mu - you NEED 
> to do this... You've got the sonic excellence - now you just need 
to 
> work on the user interface.  
>       I am pretty disappointed with Emagic, I must say.  To not 
> support these machines is criminal.  However, they didn't say they 
> wouldn't do one - just that it wasn't on the agenda at this point 
in 
> time... So, maybe they will change their minds and make it a 
> priority... Would sure be nice...  Maybe we all need to fire off 
> emails to them to help them make the decision ;)  Squeaky wheels 
and 

> all...
> 
>                Flibfree

The problem is not really Emagic's fault... E-MU are really bad at
developing and publishing complete sysex specs for their hardware. They
promised a full sysex implementation for the Ultra samplers plus RFX card to
be releases last October (2002), but we are still waiting. Emagic can't
develop librarian software for the newer E-MU kit until E-MU give them the
full sysex spec (and also lend them a command station to test the software
on).

However, Creative Labs hold the purse strings nowadays at E-MU, and
developing full sysex specs for professional kit aimed at a niche market
comes second to developing consumer soundcards for the mass market.

Regards,

Stu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: dwoodaman [mailto:dwoodaman@...]
|Sent: 13 October 2003 22:35
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: [xl7] Re: Editor - Hello E-mu!
|
|
|Midiquest is supposed to have an editor out "by fall 2003" which I
|hope means soon...
|Dana
|--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "flibfree" <flibfree@w...> wrote:
|> Hello all,
|>       Just wanted to say that I emailed Emagic regarding the
|> possibility of an editor for the XX-7 series for SoundDiver.  They
|> said they had no current plans to write one.  Major bad news...
|>        I would be very willing to PAY! for a decent editor for
|these
|> machines (and an EOS sampler editor would be great, too...).  These
|> are such incredible machines, but without an editor you are
|hamstrung
|> using them.  Very frustrating.  I would hazard a guess that sales
|of
|> these kinds of instruments would soar simply if a good editor were
|> made available.  This is a major oversight in the marketing
|> area...
|>       Somebody mentioned using the AN200 a while back and I have to
|> agree - I've got an AN1x and the editor makes it a joy to work
|with.
|> I do tweak it from the front panel a lot, but for the more complex
|> stuff, the editor takes all the pain away.  Wake up E-mu - you NEED
|> to do this... You've got the sonic excellence - now you just need
|to
|> work on the user interface.
|>       I am pretty disappointed with Emagic, I must say.  To not
|> support these machines is criminal.  However, they didn't say they
|> wouldn't do one - just that it wasn't on the agenda at this point
|in
|> time... So, maybe they will change their minds and make it a
|> priority... Would sure be nice...  Maybe we all need to fire off
|> emails to them to help them make the decision ;)  Squeaky wheels
|and
|> all...
|>
|>                Flibfree
|
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I agree.  I was an Ensonic TS-10 user and the lack of
any decent computer based tools was one of the reasons
I didn't look at the Command Station in the first
place (not like the Roland one had one either though)

But speaking of Roland, I think they have the right
idea with their VariOS system.  I think more companies
should get the idea that almost all gear ultimately
gets plugged into a computer at this point and people
are tired of tiny little displays and buried
functions.

That said, if you spend some quality time with the
Command Station, it's not a bad unit to program.

Mark

--- flibfree <flibfree@...> wrote:

> Hello all,
>       Just wanted to say that I emailed Emagic
> regarding the 
> possibility of an editor for the XX-7 series for
> SoundDiver.  They 
> said they had no current plans to write one.  Major
> bad news...