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Is it possible to simultaneously play back one loop of 4/4 and another
of 5/8 simultaneously using one command station?

My method will otherwise be to use the least common multiple for pattern
length.

-m@

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
> Is it possible to simultaneously play back one loop of 4/4 and another
> of 5/8 simultaneously using one command station?
>
> My method will otherwise be to use the least common multiple for pattern
> length.
>
> -m@

Yes: use the arpeggiators. You can use any combination of loop lengths, no LCM needed. From my submission to the Tips and Tricks file:

Using Arps to create polyrhythms

The obvious method, of running tracks of different lengths or time signatures in parallel, is not possible on the XL7. You can cheat by using longer sequences - for instance, a 12-bar pattern with tracks in 3/4 and 4/4 - but this is clumsy and won't work in many instances. You're in luck, though: what will work is to use the arpeggiators. They'll loop at whatever length you determine, so you can easily play different time signatures against each other. If the note or notes triggering the arp are recorded into the pattern (instead of played live), the arp will be retriggered each time the pattern loops, which will throw this off. To avoid this, add a "sustain pedal=on" event (CC #64 of >63) to your pattern so the note is held across the pattern loop rather than retriggered. Now the polyrhythm will last until you change patterns.

However you look at it, the Command Station will only play back one loop at a time.  Your
best bet for creating polyrhythms is to take the least common multiple as you surmised.

     I have found it interesting that *all* of the preset patterns are in 4/4.  I suppose this is
the dominant paradigm of today's music.  Sometimes when I am practicing my guitar I like to have a
drum machine going on in the background, it's more interesting than a metronome.  Does anyone know
if there's an easy way to delete one beat per measure to make a 4/4 pattern become a 3/4 pattern? 
If not, I'll just have to write a few of my own... :)

     Stephen




Is it possible to simultaneously play back one loop of 4/4 and another
of 5/8 simultaneously using one command station?

My method will otherwise be to use the least common multiple for pattern
length.



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Hehe. The FIRST thing I did is erase ALL the presets, so I wouldn't
know.
I've already created a slew of patterns though, in 3, 4, 5, 7, and other
meters.

When I decide to install the companion software, I'll dump these and
share them in the files section.

-m@

> -----Original Message-----
> From: S V G [mailto:vsyevolod@...] 
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:58 AM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Re: Polyrhythms
> 
> 
> 
>      However you look at it, the Command Station will only 
> play back one loop at a time.  Your
> best bet for creating polyrhythms is to take the least common 
> multiple as you surmised.
> 
>      I have found it interesting that *all* of the preset 
> patterns are in 4/4.  I suppose this is
> the dominant paradigm of today's music.  Sometimes when I am 
> practicing my guitar I like to have a
> drum machine going on in the background, it's more 
> interesting than a metronome.  Does anyone know
> if there's an easy way to delete one beat per measure to make 
> a 4/4 pattern become a 3/4 pattern? 
> If not, I'll just have to write a few of my own... :)
> 
>      Stephen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is it possible to simultaneously play back one loop of 4/4 and another
> of 5/8 simultaneously using one command station?
> 
> My method will otherwise be to use the least common multiple 
> for pattern
> length.
> 
> 
> 
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