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I recently came across the EMU ³Old World Instruments² Soundfont collection,
which supposedly includes ³the very best sounds and instruments used in
E-MU¹s popular Planet Earth sound module.² The Planet Earth was just the
World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am wondering
how close this will get me, if anyone knows.

Here¹s a link, with the Preset Listing.
http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp

Thanks.
Mark


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Thanks for the sales pitch, but unfortunately I am not buying. Sorry. I do
need to correct you on a number of points, though.

First, these Soundfont package downloads are completely legal ­ they are
released by E-MU! Hence the Creative logo, and "Soundfont.com from E-MU /
Ensoniq" graphics on the site.

Additionally, the Soundfont collection is actually two full banks from the
World Expedition ROM, as I have learned. That¹s much different than "not the
entire bank one". And it looks like many of the good ones are represented.
What is NOT represented are the ARP and BTS presets, which is
understandable. And with 256 presets, I am sure more than a few of the
"really good ones" are here. And at 1/10th the price you are selling your
units for, I think it¹s a wonderful deal.

Not to mention you can get at the raw samples and edit them, and build
custom drum kits. Try doing that with the Planet Earth or World Expedition
ROM.

I understand what you're trying to do here, and let it be known that I have
worked at large ad agencies for many years so I see right through it.

If anyone else has any opinion on these E-MU Soundfont collections, and how
they compare to the ROMs, I'd be interested to hear. I don't have much
experience with sf2 files or their quality.

Thanks.
Mark

On 3/26/04 10:01 PM, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@sisqtel.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello Mark,
> 
> I saw your post on the XL-7 site and checked out the online download you are
> considering.  I compared it to what is on the World Expedition ROM that is the
> ROM that comes with in the Planet Earth Module and it is severely missing A
> TON of very awesome presets in the World Exp. ROM.  I would say it has less
> than 20% of the presets if even that, and they are not the "best" ones either.
> The World Exp ROM has 4 banks of 127 sounds.  The download that you are
> looking at looks like it has mostly stuff only from Bank One and even that is
> NOT the entire Bank One from what I can ascertain looking at the Sound List
> of presets in the owners manual that comes with the Planet Earth Module.
> I would say, if you want the entire World Expedition with all 4
> banks of killer sounds (all 512 of em), then save your money for the ROM
> itself 
> (or buy a Planet Earth module) if you can, and forget the on-line download
> thang which is no where near as cool in my opinion. You will be far happier
> with the "real deal"  i think.  ;-)
> 
> If you want the World Expedition ROM, i do have one for sale on eBay
> brand new and its factory sealed.  If you want the Planet Earth Module with
> the World Expedition ROM installed in it, I also have one on eBay in almost
> new condition.  Please check out my auctions under my ID... dublmranch ...
> OR feel free to contact me directly if you wish.  Either way you'd be far
> better 
> off than spending $ for that extremely incomplete download.  And I wonder if
> that download is even a legal form of those presets.  In other words, have
> they 
> cleared it with EMU to be selling those presets on line, or ? That would be a
> very important question to ask.  If they have not cleared it with EMU, then
> you 
> would not technically have any legal rights to use the presets for production.
> Any clearance should of course be in writing for your legal protection.
> Anyway that's something else to consider.  I hope that helps.
> 
> With regards,  Will McCoy  ---please check my Yahoo ID here on this site to
> find out who i am and how to contact me directly if you like.  thanks.  :-}
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
>> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont
> collection,
>> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and instruments used in
>> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth was just the
>> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am
> wondering
>> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
>> 
>> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
>> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Mark
>> 
>>

Thanks for this link!! I bet most people who are lusting after these sounds would rather have them in their computers anyway. I hope this blows the air out of the dumb high prices for the World Expedition and Planet Earth units on ebay.

The mp3 demo song sounds GREAT. I need to look back into soundfonts again as they may be just the ticket for a nice laptop studio or any computer DAW now that computer power is so good.

http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Pipher 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?


  Thanks for the sales pitch, but unfortunately I am not buying. Sorry. I do
  need to correct you on a number of points, though.

  First, these Soundfont package downloads are completely legal ­ they are
  released by E-MU! Hence the Creative logo, and "Soundfont.com from E-MU /
  Ensoniq" graphics on the site.

  Additionally, the Soundfont collection is actually two full banks from the
  World Expedition ROM, as I have learned. That¹s much different than "not the
  entire bank one". And it looks like many of the good ones are represented.
  What is NOT represented are the ARP and BTS presets, which is
  understandable. And with 256 presets, I am sure more than a few of the
  "really good ones" are here. And at 1/10th the price you are selling your
  units for, I think it¹s a wonderful deal.

  Not to mention you can get at the raw samples and edit them, and build
  custom drum kits. Try doing that with the Planet Earth or World Expedition
  ROM.

  I understand what you're trying to do here, and let it be known that I have
  worked at large ad agencies for many years so I see right through it.

  If anyone else has any opinion on these E-MU Soundfont collections, and how
  they compare to the ROMs, I'd be interested to hear. I don't have much
  experience with sf2 files or their quality.

  Thanks.
  Mark



  On 3/26/04 10:01 PM, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@...> wrote:

  > 
  > 
  > Hello Mark,
  > 
  > I saw your post on the XL-7 site and checked out the online download you are
  > considering.  I compared it to what is on the World Expedition ROM that is the
  > ROM that comes with in the Planet Earth Module and it is severely missing A
  > TON of very awesome presets in the World Exp. ROM.  I would say it has less
  > than 20% of the presets if even that, and they are not the "best" ones either.
  > The World Exp ROM has 4 banks of 127 sounds.  The download that you are
  > looking at looks like it has mostly stuff only from Bank One and even that is
  > NOT the entire Bank One from what I can ascertain looking at the Sound List
  > of presets in the owners manual that comes with the Planet Earth Module.
  > I would say, if you want the entire World Expedition with all 4
  > banks of killer sounds (all 512 of em), then save your money for the ROM
  > itself 
  > (or buy a Planet Earth module) if you can, and forget the on-line download
  > thang which is no where near as cool in my opinion. You will be far happier
  > with the "real deal"  i think.  ;-)
  > 
  > If you want the World Expedition ROM, i do have one for sale on eBay
  > brand new and its factory sealed.  If you want the Planet Earth Module with
  > the World Expedition ROM installed in it, I also have one on eBay in almost
  > new condition.  Please check out my auctions under my ID... dublmranch ...
  > OR feel free to contact me directly if you wish.  Either way you'd be far
  > better 
  > off than spending $ for that extremely incomplete download.  And I wonder if
  > that download is even a legal form of those presets.  In other words, have
  > they 
  > cleared it with EMU to be selling those presets on line, or ? That would be a
  > very important question to ask.  If they have not cleared it with EMU, then
  > you 
  > would not technically have any legal rights to use the presets for production.
  > Any clearance should of course be in writing for your legal protection.
  > Anyway that's something else to consider.  I hope that helps.
  > 
  > With regards,  Will McCoy  ---please check my Yahoo ID here on this site to
  > find out who i am and how to contact me directly if you like.  thanks.  :-}
  > 
  > 
  > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
  >> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont
  > collection,
  >> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and instruments used in
  >> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth was just the
  >> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am
  > wondering
  >> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
  >> 
  >> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
  >> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
  >> 
  >> Thanks.
  >> Mark
  >> 
  >> 


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I have the Old World Instruments double-CD for E-MU E4 samplers. It's really
good - one of the best sample CDs I have. I had an inkling it was the same
as the Planet Earth ROM when someone told me the Planet Earth had really
good Bazouki etc, which is what is on this CD.
I expect a lot of the Planet Earth presets are missing, but I would think
the instruments are all there. This is the same as the Platinum Phatt CD and
Mo Phatt ROM. The Platinum Phatt CD doesn't have the Mo Phatt presets, but
it has all the Mo Phatt instruments that are used to make those presets
(plus tons of other stuff they couldn't fit on the ROM)...

If anyone's interested I have a spare Old World Instruments E4 double-CD,
still shrink-wrapped, which I am willing to sell for 20GBP plus shipping
(which I promise will be the actual shipping costs and not a penny more).
It's compatible with any E4 sampler and also the new Emulator X (as well as
other sampler progs that read E4 format). Also you could probably use
Chickensys Translator to put it into soundfont format, but don't quote me on
that...

Regards,

Stu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Ravi Ivan Sharma [mailto:noision1@...]
|Sent: 27 March 2004 19:27
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
|
|
|Thanks for this link!! I bet most people who are lusting after
|these sounds would rather have them in their computers anyway. I
|hope this blows the air out of the dumb high prices for the World
|Expedition and Planet Earth units on ebay.
|
|The mp3 demo song sounds GREAT. I need to look back into
|soundfonts again as they may be just the ticket for a nice laptop
|studio or any computer DAW now that computer power is so good.
|
|http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
|
|  ----- Original Message -----
|  From: Mark Pipher
|  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:26 AM
|  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
|
|
|  Thanks for the sales pitch, but unfortunately I am not buying.
|Sorry. I do
|  need to correct you on a number of points, though.
|
|  First, these Soundfont package downloads are completely legal \ufffd they are
|  released by E-MU! Hence the Creative logo, and "Soundfont.com from E-MU /
|  Ensoniq" graphics on the site.
|
|  Additionally, the Soundfont collection is actually two full
|banks from the
|  World Expedition ROM, as I have learned. That\ufffds much different
|than "not the
|  entire bank one". And it looks like many of the good ones are
|represented.
|  What is NOT represented are the ARP and BTS presets, which is
|  understandable. And with 256 presets, I am sure more than a few of the
|  "really good ones" are here. And at 1/10th the price you are selling your
|  units for, I think it\ufffds a wonderful deal.
|
|  Not to mention you can get at the raw samples and edit them, and build
|  custom drum kits. Try doing that with the Planet Earth or World
|Expedition
|  ROM.
|
|  I understand what you're trying to do here, and let it be known
|that I have
|  worked at large ad agencies for many years so I see right through it.
|
|  If anyone else has any opinion on these E-MU Soundfont
|collections, and how
|  they compare to the ROMs, I'd be interested to hear. I don't have much
|  experience with sf2 files or their quality.
|
|  Thanks.
|  Mark
|
|
|
|  On 3/26/04 10:01 PM, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@...> wrote:
|
|  >
|  >
|  > Hello Mark,
|  >
|  > I saw your post on the XL-7 site and checked out the online
|download you are
|  > considering.  I compared it to what is on the World Expedition
|ROM that is the
|  > ROM that comes with in the Planet Earth Module and it is
|severely missing A
|  > TON of very awesome presets in the World Exp. ROM.  I would
|say it has less
|  > than 20% of the presets if even that, and they are not the
|"best" ones either.
|  > The World Exp ROM has 4 banks of 127 sounds.  The download that you are
|  > looking at looks like it has mostly stuff only from Bank One
|and even that is
|  > NOT the entire Bank One from what I can ascertain looking at
|the Sound List
|  > of presets in the owners manual that comes with the Planet
|Earth Module.
|  > I would say, if you want the entire World Expedition with all 4
|  > banks of killer sounds (all 512 of em), then save your money
|for the ROM
|  > itself
|  > (or buy a Planet Earth module) if you can, and forget the
|on-line download
|  > thang which is no where near as cool in my opinion. You will
|be far happier
|  > with the "real deal"  i think.  ;-)
|  >
|  > If you want the World Expedition ROM, i do have one for sale on eBay
|  > brand new and its factory sealed.  If you want the Planet
|Earth Module with
|  > the World Expedition ROM installed in it, I also have one on
|eBay in almost
|  > new condition.  Please check out my auctions under my ID...
|dublmranch ...
|  > OR feel free to contact me directly if you wish.  Either way
|you'd be far
|  > better
|  > off than spending $ for that extremely incomplete download.
|And I wonder if
|  > that download is even a legal form of those presets.  In other
|words, have
|  > they
|  > cleared it with EMU to be selling those presets on line, or ?
|That would be a
|  > very important question to ask.  If they have not cleared it
|with EMU, then
|  > you
|  > would not technically have any legal rights to use the presets
|for production.
|  > Any clearance should of course be in writing for your legal protection.
|  > Anyway that's something else to consider.  I hope that helps.
|  >
|  > With regards,  Will McCoy  ---please check my Yahoo ID here on
|this site to
|  > find out who i am and how to contact me directly if you like.
|thanks.  :-}
|  >
|  >
|  > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
|  >> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont
|  > collection,
|  >> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and
|instruments used in
|  >> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth
|was just the
|  >> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am
|  > wondering
|  >> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
|  >>
|  >> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
|  >> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
|  >>
|  >> Thanks.
|  >> Mark
|  >>
|  >>
|
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|-----Original Message-----
|From: William McCoy [mailto:dublmranch@...]
|Sent: 27 March 2004 22:28
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
|
|
|
|Hello Mark,
|
|Sorry, i really did not intend to offend you. I meant to assist.
|I counted the
|presets incorrectly.  I apoligize for that.  It looks like there
|are 2 full banks as
|you say.  I missed the ones in the right hand column. ;-) The
|beats and arps
|would be missing of course as you also pointed out.  A lot of my
|favorites are
|missing but hey that's just my opinion.  I didnt realize that was
|Creative Labs
|who now own EMU and so, of course, the legal thang is not an
|issue.  Another
|mistake I made.  And I apologize for that too.  I did not
|recognize the logo.  Its
|all new to me.  Im an old time EMU lover and just getting used to
|all the "new"
|changes and logos.  Please understand, im just a guy like you who
|wanted to
|try to be helpful.  And yes, i had a couple items for sale that i
|mentioned, as
|we all do sometimes, but im not an advertising agency and so there
|is really
|no need for hostilities here.  Thanks for your understanding.  And
|thanks for
|providing the link to Creative Labs so we can all have a look at
|what they are
|offering now that is not shown on the EMU website.  It is very
|interesting to
|see the current developements for sure.  I appreciate it very much.  Peace.
|
|With regards,  Will
|
|
|--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
|> Thanks for the sales pitch, but unfortunately I am not buying.
|Sorry. I do
|> need to correct you on a number of points, though.
|>
|> First, these Soundfont package downloads are completely legal - they are
|> released by E-MU! Hence the Creative logo, and "Soundfont.com from E-
|MU /
|> Ensoniq" graphics on the site.
|>
|> Additionally, the Soundfont collection is actually two full
|banks from the
|> World Expedition ROM, as I have learned. That1s much different than "not
|the
|> entire bank one". And it looks like many of the good ones are
|represented.
|> What is NOT represented are the ARP and BTS presets, which is
|> understandable. And with 256 presets, I am sure more than a few of the
|> "really good ones" are here. And at 1/10th the price you are selling your
|> units for, I think it1s a wonderful deal.
|>
|> Not to mention you can get at the raw samples and edit them, and build
|> custom drum kits. Try doing that with the Planet Earth or World
|Expedition
|> ROM.
|>
|> I understand what you're trying to do here, and let it be known
|that I have
|> worked at large ad agencies for many years so I see right through it.
|>
|> If anyone else has any opinion on these E-MU Soundfont collections, and
|how
|> they compare to the ROMs, I'd be interested to hear. I don't have much
|> experience with sf2 files or their quality.
|>
|> Thanks.
|> Mark
|>
|>
|>
|> On 3/26/04 10:01 PM, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@s...> wrote:
|>
|> >
|> >
|> > Hello Mark,
|> >
|> > I saw your post on the XL-7 site and checked out the online
|download you
|are
|> > considering.  I compared it to what is on the World Expedition
|ROM that is
|the
|> > ROM that comes with in the Planet Earth Module and it is
|severely missing
|A
|> > TON of very awesome presets in the World Exp. ROM.  I would say it has
|less
|> > than 20% of the presets if even that, and they are not the "best" ones
|either.
|> > The World Exp ROM has 4 banks of 127 sounds.  The download that you
|are
|> > looking at looks like it has mostly stuff only from Bank One
|and even that is
|> > NOT the entire Bank One from what I can ascertain looking at the Sound
|List
|> > of presets in the owners manual that comes with the Planet
|Earth Module.
|> > I would say, if you want the entire World Expedition with all 4
|> > banks of killer sounds (all 512 of em), then save your money
|for the ROM
|> > itself
|> > (or buy a Planet Earth module) if you can, and forget the
|on-line download
|> > thang which is no where near as cool in my opinion. You will be far
|happier
|> > with the "real deal"  i think.  ;-)
|> >
|> > If you want the World Expedition ROM, i do have one for sale on eBay
|> > brand new and its factory sealed.  If you want the Planet Earth Module
|with
|> > the World Expedition ROM installed in it, I also have one on eBay in
|almost
|> > new condition.  Please check out my auctions under my ID... dublmranch
|...
|> > OR feel free to contact me directly if you wish.  Either way
|you'd be far
|> > better
|> > off than spending $ for that extremely incomplete download.
|And I wonder
|if
|> > that download is even a legal form of those presets.  In other
|words, have
|> > they
|> > cleared it with EMU to be selling those presets on line, or ?
|That would be
|a
|> > very important question to ask.  If they have not cleared it
|with EMU, then
|> > you
|> > would not technically have any legal rights to use the presets for
|production.
|> > Any clearance should of course be in writing for your legal protection.
|> > Anyway that's something else to consider.  I hope that helps.
|> >
|> > With regards,  Will McCoy  ---please check my Yahoo ID here on
|this site
|to
|> > find out who i am and how to contact me directly if you like.
|thanks.  :-}
|> >
|> >
|> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
|> >> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont
|> > collection,
|> >> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and instruments used
|in
|> >> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth was just
|the
|> >> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am
|> > wondering
|> >> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
|> >>
|> >> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
|> >> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
|> >>
|> >> Thanks.
|> >> Mark
|> >>
|> >>
|
|
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With all this talk about WORLD sounds, I thought it might be pertinent to 
mention that I have found some great world stuff on the Protozoa ROM (from 
the old Proteus 3 library) as well as on the Ensoniq Project ROM (from the old 
ASR library known as Real World EXP-1).  Both ROMS dish up some real 
tastey world sounds that are definately worth having.  In other words, the 
World rom is not the only way to go if you are hungry for the ethnic flavors.  
Peace.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont 
collection,
> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and instruments used in
> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth was just the
> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am 
wondering

> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
> 
> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
> 
> Thanks.
> Mark
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Stu is correct.  The Old World Instuments double CD-ROM (vol.7 of the 
producer series) is a very nice collection of World sounds indeed.  I have it too 
and its definately worth owning.  You can still get them directly from EMU off 
their web-site and it comes bundled with the Platinum Phatt double CD-ROM 
(vol.8) for only $29.95 for both.  That's a really cool deal for 4 CD-ROMS total! 
Here's the direct link to this offer:
http://www.emu.com/promo/cdrombundles/welcome.asp
These EMU CD-ROM bundles are very attractively priced right now i think. ;-)
later,  Will


> I expect a lot of the Planet Earth presets are missing, but I would think
> the instruments are all there. This is the same as the Platinum Phatt CD and
> Mo Phatt ROM. The Platinum Phatt CD doesn't have the Mo Phatt presets, 
but
> it has all the Mo Phatt instruments that are used to make those presets
> (plus tons of other stuff they couldn't fit on the ROM)...
> 
> If anyone's interested I have a spare Old World Instruments E4 double-CD,
> still shrink-wrapped, which I am willing to sell for 20GBP plus shipping
> (which I promise will be the actual shipping costs and not a penny more).
> It's compatible with any E4 sampler and also the new Emulator X (as well as
> other sampler progs that read E4 format). Also you could probably use
> Chickensys Translator to put it into soundfont format, but don't quote me on
> that...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stu
> 
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Ravi Ivan Sharma [mailto:noision1@h...]
> |Sent: 27 March 2004 19:27
> |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> |Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
> |
> |
> |Thanks for this link!! I bet most people who are lusting after
> |these sounds would rather have them in their computers anyway. I
> |hope this blows the air out of the dumb high prices for the World
> |Expedition and Planet Earth units on ebay.
> |
> |The mp3 demo song sounds GREAT. I need to look back into
> |soundfonts again as they may be just the ticket for a nice laptop
> |studio or any computer DAW now that computer power is so good.
> |
> |http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
> |
> |  ----- Original Message -----
> |  From: Mark Pipher
> |  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> |  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:26 AM
> |  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
> |
> |
> |  Thanks for the sales pitch, but unfortunately I am not buying.
> |Sorry. I do
> |  need to correct you on a number of points, though.
> |
> |  First, these Soundfont package downloads are completely legal - they are
> |  released by E-MU! Hence the Creative logo, and "Soundfont.com from E-
MU /
> |  Ensoniq" graphics on the site.
> |
> |  Additionally, the Soundfont collection is actually two full
> |banks from the
> |  World Expedition ROM, as I have learned. That1s much different
> |than "not the
> |  entire bank one". And it looks like many of the good ones are
> |represented.
> |  What is NOT represented are the ARP and BTS presets, which is
> |  understandable. And with 256 presets, I am sure more than a few of the
> |  "really good ones" are here. And at 1/10th the price you are selling your
> |  units for, I think it1s a wonderful deal.
> |
> |  Not to mention you can get at the raw samples and edit them, and build
> |  custom drum kits. Try doing that with the Planet Earth or World
> |Expedition
> |  ROM.
> |
> |  I understand what you're trying to do here, and let it be known
> |that I have
> |  worked at large ad agencies for many years so I see right through it.
> |
> |  If anyone else has any opinion on these E-MU Soundfont
> |collections, and how
> |  they compare to the ROMs, I'd be interested to hear. I don't have much
> |  experience with sf2 files or their quality.
> |
> |  Thanks.
> |  Mark
> |
> |
> |
> |  On 3/26/04 10:01 PM, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@s...> wrote:
> |
> |  >
> |  >
> |  > Hello Mark,
> |  >
> |  > I saw your post on the XL-7 site and checked out the online
> |download you are
> |  > considering.  I compared it to what is on the World Expedition
> |ROM that is the
> |  > ROM that comes with in the Planet Earth Module and it is
> |severely missing A
> |  > TON of very awesome presets in the World Exp. ROM.  I would
> |say it has less
> |  > than 20% of the presets if even that, and they are not the
> |"best" ones either.
> |  > The World Exp ROM has 4 banks of 127 sounds.  The download that 
you are

> |  > looking at looks like it has mostly stuff only from Bank One
> |and even that is
> |  > NOT the entire Bank One from what I can ascertain looking at
> |the Sound List
> |  > of presets in the owners manual that comes with the Planet
> |Earth Module.
> |  > I would say, if you want the entire World Expedition with all 4
> |  > banks of killer sounds (all 512 of em), then save your money
> |for the ROM
> |  > itself
> |  > (or buy a Planet Earth module) if you can, and forget the
> |on-line download
> |  > thang which is no where near as cool in my opinion. You will
> |be far happier
> |  > with the "real deal"  i think.  ;-)
> |  >
> |  > If you want the World Expedition ROM, i do have one for sale on eBay
> |  > brand new and its factory sealed.  If you want the Planet
> |Earth Module with
> |  > the World Expedition ROM installed in it, I also have one on
> |eBay in almost
> |  > new condition.  Please check out my auctions under my ID...
> |dublmranch ...
> |  > OR feel free to contact me directly if you wish.  Either way
> |you'd be far
> |  > better
> |  > off than spending $ for that extremely incomplete download.
> |And I wonder if
> |  > that download is even a legal form of those presets.  In other
> |words, have
> |  > they
> |  > cleared it with EMU to be selling those presets on line, or ?
> |That would be a
> |  > very important question to ask.  If they have not cleared it
> |with EMU, then
> |  > you
> |  > would not technically have any legal rights to use the presets
> |for production.
> |  > Any clearance should of course be in writing for your legal protection.
> |  > Anyway that's something else to consider.  I hope that helps.
> |  >
> |  > With regards,  Will McCoy  ---please check my Yahoo ID here on
> |this site to
> |  > find out who i am and how to contact me directly if you like.
> |thanks.  :-}
> |  >
> |  >
> |  > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
> |  >> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont
> |  > collection,
> |  >> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and
> |instruments used in
> |  >> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth
> |was just the
> |  >> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am
> |  > wondering
> |  >> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
> |  >>
> |  >> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
> |  >> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
> |  >>
> |  >> Thanks.
> |  >> Mark
> |  >>
> |  >>
> |
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Shipping to the UK is very expensive tho - they quoted me $60, which is
twice as much as the cost of the CDs. That works out at about 50GBP, plus
you may or may not have to pay import duty (I did), which works out as 8GBP
+ 17.5% of the declared value of the CDs, which would make a total of around
67GBP. 20GBP plus shipping is still as good price for people in the UK (It's
what I paid for one second-hand, before they started doing the bundles. The
one I am selling is brand new and still in its shrinkwrap!)

Regards,

Stu

-----Original Message-----
From: William McCoy [mailto:dublmranch@...]
Sent: 28 March 2004 05:36
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?


Stu is correct.  The Old World Instuments double CD-ROM (vol.7 of the
producer series) is a very nice collection of World sounds indeed.  I have
it too
and its definately worth owning.  You can still get them directly from EMU
off
their web-site and it comes bundled with the Platinum Phatt double CD-ROM
(vol.8) for only $29.95 for both.  That's a really cool deal for 4 CD-ROMS
total!
Here's the direct link to this offer:
http://www.emu.com/promo/cdrombundles/welcome.asp
These EMU CD-ROM bundles are very attractively priced right now i think. ;-)
later,  Will


> I expect a lot of the Planet Earth presets are missing, but I would think
> the instruments are all there. This is the same as the Platinum Phatt CD
and
> Mo Phatt ROM. The Platinum Phatt CD doesn't have the Mo Phatt presets,
but
> it has all the Mo Phatt instruments that are used to make those presets
> (plus tons of other stuff they couldn't fit on the ROM)...
>
> If anyone's interested I have a spare Old World Instruments E4 double-CD,
> still shrink-wrapped, which I am willing to sell for 20GBP plus shipping
> (which I promise will be the actual shipping costs and not a penny more).
> It's compatible with any E4 sampler and also the new Emulator X (as well
as
> other sampler progs that read E4 format). Also you could probably use
> Chickensys Translator to put it into soundfont format, but don't quote me
on
> that...
>
> Regards,
>
> Stu
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Ravi Ivan Sharma [mailto:noision1@h...]
> |Sent: 27 March 2004 19:27
> |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> |Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
> |
> |
> |Thanks for this link!! I bet most people who are lusting after
> |these sounds would rather have them in their computers anyway. I
> |hope this blows the air out of the dumb high prices for the World
> |Expedition and Planet Earth units on ebay.
> |
> |The mp3 demo song sounds GREAT. I need to look back into
> |soundfonts again as they may be just the ticket for a nice laptop
> |studio or any computer DAW now that computer power is so good.
> |
> |http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
> |
> |  ----- Original Message -----
> |  From: Mark Pipher
> |  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> |  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:26 AM
> |  Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Old World Inst. soundfonts = World Exp. ROM?
> |
> |
> |  Thanks for the sales pitch, but unfortunately I am not buying.
> |Sorry. I do
> |  need to correct you on a number of points, though.
> |
> |  First, these Soundfont package downloads are completely legal - they
are
> |  released by E-MU! Hence the Creative logo, and "Soundfont.com from E-
MU /
> |  Ensoniq" graphics on the site.
> |
> |  Additionally, the Soundfont collection is actually two full
> |banks from the
> |  World Expedition ROM, as I have learned. That1s much different
> |than "not the
> |  entire bank one". And it looks like many of the good ones are
> |represented.
> |  What is NOT represented are the ARP and BTS presets, which is
> |  understandable. And with 256 presets, I am sure more than a few of the
> |  "really good ones" are here. And at 1/10th the price you are selling
your
> |  units for, I think it1s a wonderful deal.
> |
> |  Not to mention you can get at the raw samples and edit them, and build
> |  custom drum kits. Try doing that with the Planet Earth or World
> |Expedition
> |  ROM.
> |
> |  I understand what you're trying to do here, and let it be known
> |that I have
> |  worked at large ad agencies for many years so I see right through it.
> |
> |  If anyone else has any opinion on these E-MU Soundfont
> |collections, and how
> |  they compare to the ROMs, I'd be interested to hear. I don't have much
> |  experience with sf2 files or their quality.
> |
> |  Thanks.
> |  Mark
> |
> |
> |
> |  On 3/26/04 10:01 PM, "William McCoy" <dublmranch@s...> wrote:
> |
> |  >
> |  >
> |  > Hello Mark,
> |  >
> |  > I saw your post on the XL-7 site and checked out the online
> |download you are
> |  > considering.  I compared it to what is on the World Expedition
> |ROM that is the
> |  > ROM that comes with in the Planet Earth Module and it is
> |severely missing A
> |  > TON of very awesome presets in the World Exp. ROM.  I would
> |say it has less
> |  > than 20% of the presets if even that, and they are not the
> |"best" ones either.
> |  > The World Exp ROM has 4 banks of 127 sounds.  The download that
you are
> |  > looking at looks like it has mostly stuff only from Bank One
> |and even that is
> |  > NOT the entire Bank One from what I can ascertain looking at
> |the Sound List
> |  > of presets in the owners manual that comes with the Planet
> |Earth Module.
> |  > I would say, if you want the entire World Expedition with all 4
> |  > banks of killer sounds (all 512 of em), then save your money
> |for the ROM
> |  > itself
> |  > (or buy a Planet Earth module) if you can, and forget the
> |on-line download
> |  > thang which is no where near as cool in my opinion. You will
> |be far happier
> |  > with the "real deal"  i think.  ;-)
> |  >
> |  > If you want the World Expedition ROM, i do have one for sale on eBay
> |  > brand new and its factory sealed.  If you want the Planet
> |Earth Module with
> |  > the World Expedition ROM installed in it, I also have one on
> |eBay in almost
> |  > new condition.  Please check out my auctions under my ID...
> |dublmranch ...
> |  > OR feel free to contact me directly if you wish.  Either way
> |you'd be far
> |  > better
> |  > off than spending $ for that extremely incomplete download.
> |And I wonder if
> |  > that download is even a legal form of those presets.  In other
> |words, have
> |  > they
> |  > cleared it with EMU to be selling those presets on line, or ?
> |That would be a
> |  > very important question to ask.  If they have not cleared it
> |with EMU, then
> |  > you
> |  > would not technically have any legal rights to use the presets
> |for production.
> |  > Any clearance should of course be in writing for your legal
protection.
> |  > Anyway that's something else to consider.  I hope that helps.
> |  >
> |  > With regards,  Will McCoy  ---please check my Yahoo ID here on
> |this site to
> |  > find out who i am and how to contact me directly if you like.
> |thanks.  :-}
> |  >
> |  >
> |  > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
> |  >> I recently came across the EMU 3Old World Instruments2 Soundfont
> |  > collection,
> |  >> which supposedly includes 3the very best sounds and
> |instruments used in
> |  >> E-MU1s popular Planet Earth sound module.2 The Planet Earth
> |was just the
> |  >> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am
> |  > wondering
> |  >> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
> |  >>
> |  >> Here1s a link, with the Preset Listing.
> |  >> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
> |  >>
> |  >> Thanks.
> |  >> Mark
> |  >>
> |  >>
> |
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I bought the Proteus 3 World Download (the cheap one) a few months 
back, and the sample quality is fine, though normally I don't lose 
sleep over quality differences I can barely perceive. Besides, I want 
to mash-up these sounds ;-)

However, I haven't heard the World Expedition ROM - would like to 
give it a spin - so I can't directly compare, but I'm happy with my 
purchase. 

I also bought the Pure Phatt and Planet Phatt soundfonts. The latter 
has a small collection fantastic kits - a bargain at 15 clams.

Tootlepips.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
> I recently came across the EMU ³Old World Instruments² Soundfont 
collection,
> which supposedly includes ³the very best sounds and instruments 
used in
> E-MU¹s popular Planet Earth sound module.² The Planet Earth was 
just the
> World Expedition ROM right? I really need this sound set and I am 
wondering

> how close this will get me, if anyone knows.
> 
> Here¹s a link, with the Preset Listing.
> http://www.soundfont.com/downloads/OldWorld.asp
> 
> Thanks.
> Mark
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The arps on the World Rom are really nice too, though I do for once wish 
that the riffs on this ROM were included as arps too.  Some of them are 
quite good!

rEalm



The beats and arps would be missing of course as you also pointed out. 
 






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