Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I am wondering if there is a fix for this "bug" that I don't rember 
hearing about.  When sequencing external synths moving past the track 
the sustained notes get cut off.  I can select the track but then 
when I select another track the notes being held release.  This is a 
pretty big problem for me as I almost only use external sounds.

Help!

Mike G

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> I am wondering if there is a fix for this "bug" that I don't rember 
> hearing about.  When sequencing external synths moving past the 
track 
> the sustained notes get cut off.  I can select the track but then 
> when I select another track the notes being held release.  This is 
a 
> pretty big problem for me as I almost only use external sounds.
> 
> Help!
> 
> Mike G

one thing to try is to switch the note destingation for that channel 
to both rather than int and then turn down the volume knob on the xl7 
and see if that make a difference.  

I don't know if it is the same problem but when controlling my Boss 
SP-202 with my XL-7 I noticed that it wouldn't always trigger it.  it 
was weird sometimes it would and sometimes it wouldn't but I couldn't 
figure out what the difference is when it works and not.  with the 
destination set to both it triggers it fine.   I haven't noticed it 
with any other external gear.

thanks that is a good idea i will give that a shot.

Mike G.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "keiodi" <ms06j@h...> wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> > I am wondering if there is a fix for this "bug" that I don't 
rember 
> > hearing about.  When sequencing external synths moving past the 
> track 
> > the sustained notes get cut off.  I can select the track but then 
> > when I select another track the notes being held release.  This 
is 
> a 
> > pretty big problem for me as I almost only use external sounds.
> > 
> > Help!
> > 
> > Mike G
> 
> one thing to try is to switch the note destingation for that 
channel 
> to both rather than int and then turn down the volume knob on the 
xl7 
> and see if that make a difference.  
> 
> I don't know if it is the same problem but when controlling my Boss 
> SP-202 with my XL-7 I noticed that it wouldn't always trigger it.  
it 
> was weird sometimes it would and sometimes it wouldn't but I 
couldn't 

> figure out what the difference is when it works and not.  with the 
> destination set to both it triggers it fine.   I haven't noticed it 
> with any other external gear.

Ok I can't seem to make this stop happening it is not some thing that 
is bothersome all the time but this is a pretty big bug if you ask 
me.  Is there a work around? 

Mike G.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> thanks that is a good idea i will give that a shot.
> 
> Mike G.
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "keiodi" <ms06j@h...> wrote:
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> 
wrote:
> > > I am wondering if there is a fix for this "bug" that I don't 
> rember 
> > > hearing about.  When sequencing external synths moving past the 
> > track 
> > > the sustained notes get cut off.  I can select the track but 
then 
> > > when I select another track the notes being held release.  This 
> is 
> > a 
> > > pretty big problem for me as I almost only use external sounds.
> > > 
> > > Help!
> > > 
> > > Mike G
> > 
> > one thing to try is to switch the note destingation for that 
> channel 
> > to both rather than int and then turn down the volume knob on the 
> xl7 
> > and see if that make a difference.  
> > 
> > I don't know if it is the same problem but when controlling my 
Boss 
> > SP-202 with my XL-7 I noticed that it wouldn't always trigger 
it.  
> it 
> > was weird sometimes it would and sometimes it wouldn't but I 
> couldn't 
> > figure out what the difference is when it works and not.  with 
the 
> > destination set to both it triggers it fine.   I haven't noticed 
it 
> > with any other external gear.

When you move through a track, it sends an all notes off for that track
if it's an external (or both) track.  I suppose I thought this was a
good idea.  It's somewhat of a copout instead of keeping track of every
note played via pads or soft-thru'ed MIDI so that you could send each
note off when you switch away from the track.

We do this for internal tracks (i.e. all notes off *just* for notes
played by hand) because the synth architecture made it easy, but the
data structures weren't there for the ext stuff, and I didn't have time
to put them there.

If you want (and can in your external gear) disable all notes off, but
then make sure not to hold any notes while you switch tracks, or else
you'll get stuck notes.

-Aaron

--- mike <curiousproductions@...> wrote:
> Ok I can't seem to make this stop happening it is not some thing that
> is bothersome all the time but this is a pretty big bug if you ask 
> me.  Is there a work around? 
> 
> Mike G.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> > thanks that is a good idea i will give that a shot.
> > 
> > Mike G.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "keiodi" <ms06j@h...> wrote:
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> 
> wrote:
> > > > I am wondering if there is a fix for this "bug" that I don't 
> > rember 
> > > > hearing about.  When sequencing external synths moving past the
> 
> > > track 
> > > > the sustained notes get cut off.  I can select the track but 
> then 
> > > > when I select another track the notes being held release.  This
> 
> > is 
> > > a 
> > > > pretty big problem for me as I almost only use external sounds.
> > > > 
> > > > Help!
> > > > 
> > > > Mike G
> > > 
> > > one thing to try is to switch the note destingation for that 
> > channel 
> > > to both rather than int and then turn down the volume knob on the
> 
> > xl7 
> > > and see if that make a difference.  
> > > 
> > > I don't know if it is the same problem but when controlling my 
> Boss 
> > > SP-202 with my XL-7 I noticed that it wouldn't always trigger 
> it.  
> > it 
> > > was weird sometimes it would and sometimes it wouldn't but I 
> > couldn't 
> > > figure out what the difference is when it works and not.  with 
> the 
> > > destination set to both it triggers it fine.   I haven't noticed 
> it 
> > > with any other external gear.
> 
> 
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thank you for your responce to this Aaron. Please dissreguard my 
previous post.

Mike G.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> When you move through a track, it sends an all notes off for that 
track
> if it's an external (or both) track.  I suppose I thought this was a
> good idea.  It's somewhat of a copout instead of keeping track of 
every
> note played via pads or soft-thru'ed MIDI so that you could send 
each
> note off when you switch away from the track.
> 
> We do this for internal tracks (i.e. all notes off *just* for notes
> played by hand) because the synth architecture made it easy, but the
> data structures weren't there for the ext stuff, and I didn't have 
time
> to put them there.
> 
> If you want (and can in your external gear) disable all notes off, 
but
> then make sure not to hold any notes while you switch tracks, or 
else
> you'll get stuck notes.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- mike <curiousproductions@r...> wrote:
> > Ok I can't seem to make this stop happening it is not some thing 
that
> > is bothersome all the time but this is a pretty big bug if you 
ask 
> > me.  Is there a work around? 
> > 
> > Mike G.
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> 
wrote:
> > > thanks that is a good idea i will give that a shot.
> > > 
> > > Mike G.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "keiodi" <ms06j@h...> wrote:
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <curiousproductions@r...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > I am wondering if there is a fix for this "bug" that I 
don't 
> > > rember 
> > > > > hearing about.  When sequencing external synths moving past 
the
> > 
> > > > track 
> > > > > the sustained notes get cut off.  I can select the track 
but 
> > then 
> > > > > when I select another track the notes being held release.  
This
> > 
> > > is 
> > > > a 
> > > > > pretty big problem for me as I almost only use external 
sounds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Help!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mike G
> > > > 
> > > > one thing to try is to switch the note destingation for that 
> > > channel 
> > > > to both rather than int and then turn down the volume knob on 
the
> > 
> > > xl7 
> > > > and see if that make a difference.  
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know if it is the same problem but when controlling 
my 
> > Boss 
> > > > SP-202 with my XL-7 I noticed that it wouldn't always trigger 
> > it.  
> > > it 
> > > > was weird sometimes it would and sometimes it wouldn't but I 
> > > couldn't 
> > > > figure out what the difference is when it works and not.  
with 
> > the 
> > > > destination set to both it triggers it fine.   I haven't 
noticed 

> > it 
> > > > with any other external gear.
> > 
> > 
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