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Abrupt Velocity Switching on Perfect Piano-ZR

Abrupt Velocity Switching on Perfect Piano-ZR

2004-06-09 by Joel Abbott

Hi,
     I bought the ZR board for the piano and because I heard it had 
bread and butter sounds.  I like the piano, but everything else 
sounds pretty bad to me.
     I downloaded and installed the perfect piano "fixed" patches off 
of William Coakley's web site, and they do have slight improvements 
from the presets.
     However, I've noticed a serious problem in the velocity 
switching of these piano patches.  The switch between the light 
sample and the hard sample doesn't crossfade, and with just slightly 
more pressure, the sample jumps to a much wider and resonant tone.
     Does anyone else hear what I'm hearing, or perhaps have a fix to 
smooth out the velocity crossfade between the light and hard samples?
Thanks,
Joel

RE: [xl7] Abrupt Velocity Switching on Perfect Piano-ZR

2004-06-10 by patrick a thomas

Joel, here is a bit of information that will help you tweak the Piano
patches.  Hope this helps.

An important trick about the "Perfect Piano" patches: They all need some
enhancements to sound natural. Simply use the 6db LP filter, controlled by
velocity. This makes the notes much more "soft" when you play with low
velocity, and improves the sound a whole lot. I have no idea why the patches
wasn't programmed like this from the beginning, but it's really important
for the realism...
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joel Abbott [mailto:reginaldmcneely@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 5:59 PM
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [xl7] Abrupt Velocity Switching on Perfect Piano-ZR


  Hi,
       I bought the ZR board for the piano and because I heard it had
  bread and butter sounds.  I like the piano, but everything else
  sounds pretty bad to me.
       I downloaded and installed the perfect piano "fixed" patches off
  of William Coakley's web site, and they do have slight improvements
  from the presets.
       However, I've noticed a serious problem in the velocity
  switching of these piano patches.  The switch between the light
  sample and the hard sample doesn't crossfade, and with just slightly
  more pressure, the sample jumps to a much wider and resonant tone.
       Does anyone else hear what I'm hearing, or perhaps have a fix to
  smooth out the velocity crossfade between the light and hard samples?
  Thanks,
  Joel



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Re: Abrupt Velocity Switching on Perfect Piano-ZR

2004-06-10 by robotchas

It's more work, but if you're given separate samples for each 
velocity layer you can also go into the layer ranges, overlap the 
velocities, and add some fades to smooth the cross-switching. The 
drums on the PX ROM and the EPs on the Vintage ROM (well, some of 
them) are set up this way. I don't know if the ZR gives you this kind 
of access, though, or if the velocity switching is just hard-wired 
within the instrument itself.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "patrick a thomas" <revpathomas@y...> 
wrote:
> Joel, here is a bit of information that will help you tweak the 
Piano
> patches.  Hope this helps.
> 
> An important trick about the "Perfect Piano" patches: They all need 
some
> enhancements to sound natural. Simply use the 6db LP filter, 
controlled by
> velocity. This makes the notes much more "soft" when you play with 
low
> velocity, and improves the sound a whole lot. I have no idea why 
the patches
> wasn't programmed like this from the beginning, but it's really 
important
> for the realism...

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