Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hey gang,
I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I wish I 
had more drum sounds. I've got the XL-7 ROM, the Pure Phatt ROM, and 
the Protean Drums ROM, but dammit - I just want more! There can 
never be enough great sounding drums for me. So that brings me to my 
question: I'm looking for other hardware drum machines with the 
following features:

- Grid recording mode
- Realistic drum sounds (a la the Protean Drums ROM).
- Ethnic percussion sounds - if possible 

Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Fab

Grid record mode is an option on the XX-7's with the latest OS.  What 
OS do you have?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hey gang,
> I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I wish I 
> had more drum sounds. I've got the XL-7 ROM, the Pure Phatt ROM, 
and 
> the Protean Drums ROM, but dammit - I just want more! There can 
> never be enough great sounding drums for me. So that brings me to 
my 

> question: I'm looking for other hardware drum machines with the 
> following features:
> 
> - Grid recording mode
> - Realistic drum sounds (a la the Protean Drums ROM).
> - Ethnic percussion sounds - if possible 
> 
> Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> Fab

I have 2.0 - but even the earlier versions have grid mode. That's 
what I love about the XL-7. That's why I want another drum machine 
with this feature. I've gotten so used to working with grid mode 
that it's become a necessity. I'm not looking to get rid of my XL-7 -
 I just want to have as many great drum machines as possible.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "M2" <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> 
> Grid record mode is an option on the XX-7's with the latest OS.  
What 
> OS do you have?
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey gang,
> > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
wish I 
> > had more drum sounds. I've got the XL-7 ROM, the Pure Phatt ROM, 
> and 
> > the Protean Drums ROM, but dammit - I just want more! There can 
> > never be enough great sounding drums for me. So that brings me 
to 

> my 
> > question: I'm looking for other hardware drum machines with the 
> > following features:
> > 
> > - Grid recording mode
> > - Realistic drum sounds (a la the Protean Drums ROM).
> > - Ethnic percussion sounds - if possible 
> > 
> > Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> > Fab

I must have misunderstood the complete question.  Yes Grid mode was 
introduced I believe in OS # 1.3X 
  Try this link and do a search for the other features with different 
vendors.

http://www.harmony-central.com/

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> 
> I have 2.0 - but even the earlier versions have grid mode. That's 
> what I love about the XL-7. That's why I want another drum machine 
> with this feature. I've gotten so used to working with grid mode 
> that it's become a necessity. I'm not looking to get rid of my XL-
7 -
>  I just want to have as many great drum machines as possible.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "M2" <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > Grid record mode is an option on the XX-7's with the latest OS.  
> What 
> > OS do you have?
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey gang,
> > > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
> wish I 
> > > had more drum sounds. I've got the XL-7 ROM, the Pure Phatt 
ROM, 

> > and 
> > > the Protean Drums ROM, but dammit - I just want more! There can 
> > > never be enough great sounding drums for me. So that brings me 
> to 
> > my 
> > > question: I'm looking for other hardware drum machines with the 
> > > following features:
> > > 
> > > - Grid recording mode
> > > - Realistic drum sounds (a la the Protean Drums ROM).
> > > - Ethnic percussion sounds - if possible 
> > > 
> > > Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> > > Fab

Grid mode has been in there since the beginning.  As for the original
question, I'd suggest either (or both):

1 - find the World ROM.  It has *tons* of fantastic drum sounds.
2 - buy a cheap sampler and connect it to the XL-7.

For the sampler, any really simple thing will do.  There are plenty
very cheap hardware samplers that will do the trick.

-Aaron

--- M2 <mmcquay@...> wrote:

> I must have misunderstood the complete question.  Yes Grid mode was 
> introduced I believe in OS # 1.3X 

> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > Hey gang,
> > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
> > wish I had more drum sounds. [snip]


		
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Was Grid Mode Record around in the beginning as well?  That's what I 
meant.  Is Dan B. still around?  I haven't talked to him in awhile.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Grid mode has been in there since the beginning.  As for the 
original
> question, I'd suggest either (or both):
> 
> 1 - find the World ROM.  It has *tons* of fantastic drum sounds.
> 2 - buy a cheap sampler and connect it to the XL-7.
> 
> For the sampler, any really simple thing will do.  There are plenty
> very cheap hardware samplers that will do the trick.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- M2 <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> 
> > I must have misunderstood the complete question.  Yes Grid mode 
was 

> > introduced I believe in OS # 1.3X 
> 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > > Hey gang,
> > > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
> > > wish I had more drum sounds. [snip]
> 
> 
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Thanks Aaron,
1) If I could find the World ROM (and was able to get a small loan 
to afford it), then I'd get it for sure! :)
2) Great idea. I already have a cheap sampler - the SP-505. I 
haven't been able to find any great samples, really. Is there a 
website where I can download and/or purchase some great ethnic 
percussion samples? I'd be eternally grateful if you knew where to 
look. 
Thanks, 
Fab

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Grid mode has been in there since the beginning.  As for the 
original
> question, I'd suggest either (or both):
> 
> 1 - find the World ROM.  It has *tons* of fantastic drum sounds.
> 2 - buy a cheap sampler and connect it to the XL-7.
> 
> For the sampler, any really simple thing will do.  There are plenty
> very cheap hardware samplers that will do the trick.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- M2 <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> 
> > I must have misunderstood the complete question.  Yes Grid mode 
was 
> > introduced I believe in OS # 1.3X 
> 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> 
wrote:

> > > Hey gang,
> > > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
> > > wish I had more drum sounds. [snip]
> 
> 
> 		
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> I haven't been able to find any great samples, really. Is there a 
> website where I can download and/or purchase some great ethnic 
> percussion samples? I'd be eternally grateful if you knew where to 
> look.

Ive got a load of ethnic akai samples that i transfered into wavs..
Think those disks at the time were only £1.25 each!
I see the EMU world CD roms on ebay. If you knew someone with an EMU 
sampler or could transfer them into wav's (or what you need) for you 
that could be another way. Chicken sys "translator" might well be 
able to do it?
Also when a friend sold his Yamaha A5000 we copied all the CD roms 
sample disks that came with it. Now of course we cant read them 
without a yamaha sampler but if you open up the disk contents as raw 
sample data you will be very suprised at what you might get ;o)

http://chickensys.com/products/sw_iteminfo.php?sw_name=Translator+Pro

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=38070&item=7302448301&rd=1

Just an idea :o)

Gonz




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Aaron,
> 1) If I could find the World ROM (and was able to get a small loan 
> to afford it), then I'd get it for sure! :)
> 2) Great idea. I already have a cheap sampler - the SP-505. I 
> haven't been able to find any great samples, really. Is there a 
> website where I can download and/or purchase some great ethnic 
> percussion samples? I'd be eternally grateful if you knew where to 
> look. 
> Thanks, 
> Fab
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> > Grid mode has been in there since the beginning.  As for the 
> original
> > question, I'd suggest either (or both):
> > 
> > 1 - find the World ROM.  It has *tons* of fantastic drum sounds.
> > 2 - buy a cheap sampler and connect it to the XL-7.
> > 
> > For the sampler, any really simple thing will do.  There are 
plenty

> > very cheap hardware samplers that will do the trick.
> > 
> > -Aaron
> > 
> > --- M2 <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > > I must have misunderstood the complete question.  Yes Grid mode 
> was 
> > > introduced I believe in OS # 1.3X 
> > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Hey gang,
> > > > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
> > > > wish I had more drum sounds. [snip]
> > 
> > 
> > 		
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For any of you searching in vain for the World Expedition ROM, (no I
won't sell mine) just a heads up: If you have a Soundblaster card or
any softsynth capable of using soundfonts, go to www.soundfont.com and
buy the Old World Instruments soundfont.  It's a 32MB soundfont and
has almost all (if not all) of the drum samples from the World
Expedition ROM. Turns your computer into a Planet Earth module.

DC

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:

> 
> Thanks Aaron,
> 1) If I could find the World ROM (and was able to get a small loan 
> to afford it), then I'd get it for sure! :)

Try the Beat Garden ROM and the Planet Earth ROM, these are great more drum sounds.

If you want synthetic drum sounds word on the street is the Elektron Machinedrum is the 
way to go... don't know I don't own one but I've got a Monomachine on order.  I hear the 
interfaces rule.  I can't say if either are similar to the XL-7's grid mode... as I've never even 
used the grid mode.  I'm not sure why but I've just always found the XL-7 lent itself to 
realtime recording.  Probably just the way I learned from my first sequencer, an Ensoniq 
TS-10.  I blew right by it in the manual.  I think I once tried grid mode but found it to be 
retarded compared to other grid based machines like Rolands or Korgs.

BTW, I find the Korg ESX-1 to be a great little machine for not too much money and 
because it's a sampler you can put anything you damn want in it.  The last show I did used 
30% insect sounds for percussion.

Mark



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "M2" <mmcquay@s...> wrote:

> 
> I must have misunderstood the complete question.  Yes Grid mode was 
> introduced I believe in OS # 1.3X 
>   Try this link and do a search for the other features with different 
> vendors.
> 
> http://www.harmony-central.com/
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I have 2.0 - but even the earlier versions have grid mode. That's 
> > what I love about the XL-7. That's why I want another drum machine 
> > with this feature. I've gotten so used to working with grid mode 
> > that it's become a necessity. I'm not looking to get rid of my XL-
> 7 -
> >  I just want to have as many great drum machines as possible.
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "M2" <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Grid record mode is an option on the XX-7's with the latest OS.  
> > What 
> > > OS do you have?
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Fab Claxton" <fabclaxton@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hey gang,
> > > > I'm perfectly happy with my XL-7's synth capabilities, but I 
> > wish I 
> > > > had more drum sounds. I've got the XL-7 ROM, the Pure Phatt 
> ROM, 
> > > and 
> > > > the Protean Drums ROM, but dammit - I just want more! There can 
> > > > never be enough great sounding drums for me. So that brings me 
> > to 
> > > my 
> > > > question: I'm looking for other hardware drum machines with the 
> > > > following features:
> > > > 
> > > > - Grid recording mode
> > > > - Realistic drum sounds (a la the Protean Drums ROM).
> > > > - Ethnic percussion sounds - if possible 
> > > > 
> > > > Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> > > > Fab