Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hi there, i get a new Emu xl-7 station. The sound it's greate.
But i find it hardly to edit, and i am interested in a editor for the 
sequencer of the Emu XL-7 station. I am allready using ELoader, but i 
have this problem about having, all my songs on computer, with many 
patterns. I tryied to import in a single midi more then one pattern, 
but i did't succeed. One midi file >> One pattern ??  I'm really 
confuse about this import/export midi files in more patterns ...  
Also do you know where i can find some prebuild ('80 synth) patterns 
for arpeggiator??? Or an tutorial how i can built them???

Please can you help?

Daci

Hi Daci
Best way is to edit the note / controller data in say cubase or the 
like and save out as a midifile (mode 1 format so midi channels stay 
separated)
Dont use over 16 tracks as well.
Use Eloader to transfer the midifile in the command station.
In the command station a pattern has a maxmium length of 32 bars so a 
midifile longer than this will be truncated.
A song has a much longer length so transfer a longer midifile into a 
song.
Cant remember what happens when you load a midifile as format 1 into a 
song. Think it gets converted back to a format 0, so all tracks get put 
into 1 track but with the note / controller midi channels still intact.
Have a search back through the older posts, there should be more info 
about this one.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dacian_victor" <dacian_victor@...> wrote:

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> 
> Hi there, i get a new Emu xl-7 station. The sound it's greate.
> But i find it hardly to edit, and i am interested in a editor for the 
> sequencer of the Emu XL-7 station. I am allready using ELoader, but i 
> have this problem about having, all my songs on computer, with many 
> patterns. I tryied to import in a single midi more then one pattern, 
> but i did't succeed. One midi file >> One pattern ??  I'm really 
> confuse about this import/export midi files in more patterns ...  
> Also do you know where i can find some prebuild ('80 synth) patterns 
> for arpeggiator??? Or an tutorial how i can built them???
> 
> Please can you help?
> 
> Daci
>

Thanks for the quick answer, i have some more questions!
   
  1.How do i change in a track, all the c#3 notes in c#1, for example. I have on some traks a drum sound, but i can't change the note in the same drum set !!!
   
  2.Can i copy more tracks from a pattern??? {this is very important}
   
  3.Also, in a song i understand there is a track separate from the patterns. 
  For special solo,.. stuff. Where is it?? How can i edit/copy/paste note's????
   
  thanks again
  Daci

 
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Dacian Victor <dacian_victor@...> wrote:
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>  
>   Thanks for the quick answer, i have some more questions!
>    
>   1.How do i change in a track, all the c#3 notes in c#1, for
example. I have on some traks a drum sound, but i can't change the
note in the same drum set !!!

This got me looking on the web since I've wondered about this as well.
Found this site. If you're on a PC its good to go. Replace text then
reconvert to midi. :) wonderful!!


http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/progs/software.htm#dsm

Anybody know of one for the Mac?


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "scodoha04" <scott.d.harvey@...> wrote:

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> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Dacian Victor <dacian_victor@> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >   Thanks for the quick answer, i have some more questions!
> >    
> >   1.How do i change in a track, all the c#3 notes in c#1, for
> example. I have on some traks a drum sound, but i can't change the
> note in the same drum set !!!
> 
> This got me looking on the web since I've wondered about this as well.
> Found this site. If you're on a PC its good to go. Replace text then
> reconvert to midi. :) wonderful!!
> 
> 
> http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/progs/software.htm#dsm
>

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@...> wrote:
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> >1.How do i change in a track, all the c#3 notes in c#1, for 
> >example. I have on some traks a drum sound, but i can't change the 
> >note in the same drum set !!!
 
ok thats easy. Say to go from C2 to C1.
Select track you want to change note on, lets say track 1 kick drum 
on note C2.
 
So:-  pattern edit > Transpose > -12 (press enter) select track (leds 
flash on tracks to be transposed)
Select note range to be transposed, so C2 to C2. (only if other data 
in track that you dont want to move)
press enter. All done!
 
     
> 2.Can i copy more tracks from a pattern??? {this is very 
> important}
 
Yes use the copy funtion > pattern edit > COPY TRACK TO CLIP BOARD > 
Enter.
Then > pattern edit > PASTE CLIPBOARD TO TRACK >Enter
 
Also the XMIX function could be of some use.
 
   
> 3.Also, in a song i understand there is a track separate from the 
> patterns. >   For special solo,.. stuff. Where is it?? How can i 
> edit/copy/paste note's????

Theres a controller track "CT" and a seq track just like one track in 
a pattern.
So:- song mode > song edit scroll to the end where the event editor 
is.
It works the same way as the pattern editor.
You can either look at just note's or events or other control change 
stuff.

Have a look for the PX-7 PDF manual as it has all the revisions so 
its easier to get your head around the later added functions.

thank's a lot, for your help
   
  It's my first station, i only worked with computers sequencer before.
  I worked with cubase and fruity loops, it's more easy on computer,
  but on the station seem more fun and a lot better sound.
   
  What do you think about this microKorg with vocoder?
  Is there other better solution for vocoder effect?
   
  Daci

 
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>>So:- pattern edit > Transpose > -12 (press enter) select track (leds
flash on tracks to be transposed)
Select note range to be transposed, so C2 to C2. (only if other data
in track that you dont want to move)
press enter. All done!

Ahh! Great! I hadn't sussed that function yet. I like the idea of text
editing the files though much more versatile and probably faster. Say
frinstance one wanted to drop an octave on two seperate notes over
bars 4 and 5 and leave the rest alone, text editing makes it a breeze.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "scodoha04" <scott.d.harvey@...> wrote:
> Ahh! Great! I hadn't sussed that function yet. I like the idea of text
> editing the files though much more versatile and probably faster. 

Most of those functions in pattern and song edit work in the same way.
Would think doing it in the command station is quicker even if you have 
to do the same function a few times.
By the time you've uploaded and downloaded mid files...
Hardest bit is keeping track of how many semitones you need to shift 
things.

> Say frinstance one wanted to drop an octave on two seperate notes over
> bars 4 and 5 and leave the rest alone, text editing makes it a breeze.

Yes your right there, we could of done with an parameter to select the 
bar range to be affected as well. (as MPC2KXL has)
I like the idea of using cubase to do all the fiddly editing, you can 
use the command station as a sound module like this so you still hear 
the right stuff.
Then export the mid file back into it.

>   I worked with cubase and fruity loops, it's more easy on computer,
>   but on the station seem more fun and a lot better sound.

Use the command station along side the PC.
Command station is a lot more hands on, ive always preferred hardware 
over software but they both have there merits.
Use the best of both worlds
   
>   What do you think about this microKorg with vocoder?
>   Is there other better solution for vocoder effect?
    
Seen microKorgs on gigs n stuff but i have no experiance of them.
Sure the vocoder works ok.
A few synths offer this function, dont know which one has the best 
sound? depends what your doing and what you think sounds good i guess.