Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

hi okay just noticed when i record a pattern with an arp save it then go to a different pattern 
and try a different pattern arp when i scroll back to the previous pattern my arp pattern 
settings have changed???making the pattern sound wacked

now with a 505 or 303 the arp settings are recorded as per pattern with record settings...so 
just wondering is it not the same with the xl-7

hope i made some sence...i cant see having to go to a pattern and scroll through and set the 
arp settings everytime i play it.........and with only 60 some multisetups does this mean i can 
only record 60 some patterns with arps..im a little confused and the manual did not help me

thanks in advance

Arp pattern selected is saved with the sound preset.

Not within a pattern and not within a multi.

Bob
El Segundo, CA


-----Original Message-----

>From: zombilimited <zombilimited@...>
>Sent: Feb 20, 2008 8:47 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [xl7] arp question
>
>hi okay just noticed when i record a pattern with an arp save it then go to a different pattern 
>and try a different pattern arp when i scroll back to the previous pattern my arp pattern 
>settings have changed???making the pattern sound wacked
>
>now with a 505 or 303 the arp settings are recorded as per pattern with record settings...so 
>just wondering is it not the same with the xl-7
>
>hope i made some sence...i cant see having to go to a pattern and scroll through and set the 
>arp settings everytime i play it.........and with only 60 some multisetups does this mean i can 
>only record 60 some patterns with arps..im a little confused and the manual did not help me
>
>thanks in advance
>

hello thanks for the answer but i'm not sure i grab you? could yo elaborate...little confused
thanks
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>
> Arp pattern selected is saved with the sound preset.
> 
> Not within a pattern and not within a multi.
> 
> Bob
> El Segundo, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: zombilimited <zombilimited@...>
> >Sent: Feb 20, 2008 8:47 PM
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [xl7] arp question
> >
> >hi okay just noticed when i record a pattern with an arp save it then go to a different 
pattern 
> >and try a different pattern arp when i scroll back to the previous pattern my arp 
pattern 
> >settings have changed???making the pattern sound wacked
> >
> >now with a 505 or 303 the arp settings are recorded as per pattern with record 
settings...so 
> >just wondering is it not the same with the xl-7
> >
> >hope i made some sence...i cant see having to go to a pattern and scroll through and 
set the 
> >arp settings everytime i play it.........and with only 60 some multisetups does this mean 
i can 
> >only record 60 some patterns with arps..im a little confused and the manual did not 
help me

> >
> >thanks in advance
> >
>

okay due to the lack of response let me get more specific with my question :P if i edit arp 
settings within a preset bass and save it to a user sound slot i would have to remember 
when using that same preset sound later with different arp settings in a different pattern 
not to save over the same user sound or i will mess up the pattern in which i used the 
preset sound in before....this seems a little complicated there must be an easier way my 
my lackluster mc303 saved arp settings within a pattern although you couldnt create your 
own sounds and save them on that.....ive read the manual please tell me

if i write a pattern and want to change the arp settings for a sound and have them show up 
everytime i play the pattern from step 1 to finish how would i do it ....thanks for taking the 
time..don't want to write a whole bunch of patterns to do it wrong and mess my patterns 
up........thank u for your time in advance
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>
> Arp pattern selected is saved with the sound preset.
> 
> Not within a pattern and not within a multi.
> 
> Bob
> El Segundo, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: zombilimited <zombilimited@...>
> >Sent: Feb 20, 2008 8:47 PM
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [xl7] arp question
> >
> >hi okay just noticed when i record a pattern with an arp save it then go to a different 
pattern 
> >and try a different pattern arp when i scroll back to the previous pattern my arp 
pattern 
> >settings have changed???making the pattern sound wacked
> >
> >now with a 505 or 303 the arp settings are recorded as per pattern with record 
settings...so 
> >just wondering is it not the same with the xl-7
> >
> >hope i made some sence...i cant see having to go to a pattern and scroll through and 
set the 
> >arp settings everytime i play it.........and with only 60 some multisetups does this mean 
i can 
> >only record 60 some patterns with arps..im a little confused and the manual did not 
help me

> >
> >thanks in advance
> >
>

as far as i can tell, the only way to do what you want is to copy the
preset, change the arp settings to the desired one and save it in a
new user sound slot and then use that new user preset in your new
patterns.

On 05/03/2008, zombilimited <zombilimited@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> okay due to the lack of response let me get more specific with my question :P if i edit arp
>  settings within a preset bass and save it to a user sound slot i would have to remember
>  when using that same preset sound later with different arp settings in a different pattern
>  not to save over the same user sound or i will mess up the pattern in which i used the
>  preset sound in before....this seems a little complicated there must be an easier way my
>  my lackluster mc303 saved arp settings within a pattern although you couldnt create your
>  own sounds and save them on that.....ive read the manual please tell me
>
>  if i write a pattern and want to change the arp settings for a sound and have them show up
>  everytime i play the pattern from step 1 to finish how would i do it ....thanks for taking the
>  time..don't want to write a whole bunch of patterns to do it wrong and mess my patterns
>  up........thank u for your time in advance
>  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Arp pattern selected is saved with the sound preset.
>  >
>  > Not within a pattern and not within a multi.
>  >
>  > Bob
>  > El Segundo, CA
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > >From: zombilimited <zombilimited@...>
>  > >Sent: Feb 20, 2008 8:47 PM
>  > >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>  > >Subject: [xl7] arp question
>  > >
>  > >hi okay just noticed when i record a pattern with an arp save it then go to a different
>  pattern
>  > >and try a different pattern arp when i scroll back to the previous pattern my arp
>  pattern
>  > >settings have changed???making the pattern sound wacked
>  > >
>  > >now with a 505 or 303 the arp settings are recorded as per pattern with record
>  settings...so
>  > >just wondering is it not the same with the xl-7
>  > >
>  > >hope i made some sence...i cant see having to go to a pattern and scroll through and
>  set the
>  > >arp settings everytime i play it.........and with only 60 some multisetups does this mean
>  i can
>  > >only record 60 some patterns with arps..im a little confused and the manual did not
>  help me
>  > >
>  > >thanks in advance
>  > >
>  >
>
>

thank you steve but i dont think we are talking about the same thing 
i don't think i did a very good job explaining myself
-- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not clear on what you want to do, so let me try (1) bouncing 
> back something that I think you might be trying to do and (2) 
> suggesting something that might directly or indirectly help get you 
> where you want to go.
> 
> (1) Are you saying that you want to create (for example) one 
pattern 
> in the sequencer that plays through a number of times in such a way 
> that the arp pattern differs as the sequencer pattern repeats?
> 
> (2) As a memory aid, use a system of naming presets and assigning 
> arps to those presets that helps. For example:
> 
> Rp0:Sound00+Arp00 = a sound you will use + User Arp 00
> Rp1:Sound00+Arp01 = the same sound + User Arp 01
> etc.
> 
> Tip: The preset navigator finds caps before lower case letters; 
> that's why I used Rp for the prefix.
> 
> Again, I am not sure if any of this applies to what you want to do, 
> but I mention just in case they help.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zombilimited" <zombilimited@> wrote:
> >
> > okay due to the lack of response let me get more specific with my 
> question :P if i edit arp 
> > settings within a preset bass and save it to a user sound slot i 
> would have to remember 
> > when using that same preset sound later with different arp 
> settings in a different pattern 
> > not to save over the same user sound or i will mess up the 
pattern 
> in which i used the 
> > preset sound in before....this seems a little complicated there 
> must be an easier way my 
> > my lackluster mc303 saved arp settings within a pattern although 
> you couldnt create your 
> > own sounds and save them on that.....ive read the manual please 
> tell me
> > 
> > if i write a pattern and want to change the arp settings for a 
> sound and have them show up 
> > everytime i play the pattern from step 1 to finish how would i do 
> it ....thanks for taking the 
> > time..don't want to write a whole bunch of patterns to do it 
wrong 

> and mess my patterns 
> > up........thank u for your time in advance
>

a-ha thankyou for your input i shall try that
thanks man
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

>
> I am gonna take another stab at this. 
> Are you familiar with the PRESET PATCHCORDS? I ask because if you set 
> some of them up to route CCs to the various arp settings, your 
> sequencer patterns can use different CC values to vary some of the arp 
> settings of you Bass preset. This way you wouldn't have to save 
> different variations of the same preset.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zombilimited" <zombilimited@> wrote:
> >
> > thank you steve but i dont think we are talking about the same thing
>