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Do sequence a lot live? I never really did that with the XL-7, although 
that's ALL I do when I bring my ER-1 out.

rEalm



Like when i am using the 808 and 909 so during a live proformance i would 
be ok but when sitting at home looking for sounds it would be kinda 
anoying.

I just started playing out and I did not do any live sequencing.  I 
have only proformed once with the xl7 and I would say that I would 
not feel comfortable dooing so with it the way it is right now.  I 
was doing alot of tweaking and pattern switching and bar length 
edits but no actual wrighting.  

Off the top of of my head I start thinking about how the 909 is set 
up.  There is obviously a lot more at hand when dealing with the XL7.
One thing that came to mind is this.  Hmmmmm how to say this so it 
makes sence.....Ok lets try a list of features that would be 
required.

1.A way to turn off the triggering of sounds from the pads when in 
grid mode.
2. If there was a way of saving names for the sounds in a Kit 
preset, even if you could only do this with a hand full of presets.
3. have a feature that shows the name of the sample assigned to the 
pad when you hit it.  This way you could know what the sound was for 
shur when you where programing beats via the gid buttons.

this would be an ideal way to have it act like a 909 with what is 
already physically present with the xl7.  It wold be just like using 
a 909 except that you would be convined to editing the hole kit 
where in a 909 you are able to edit each sound on its own.

I would love to see sompthing like this but i am not going to hold 
my breath.

Honestly I think that having the ability to turn off the sound 
triggering when selecting the sample via the pad when in grid record 
mode would be enuf to do some serious live programing, it would be 
icing if you could actualy save what you have withought it glitching 
but that i don't think is fair to expect.  Unless you where to 
implimet a " very slow save" feature that would save what you had 
over a period of say 30 seconds.  Using any extra power that the cpu 
had to save withought causing the pattern to be interupted.

Hmmm there is some food for thought, Hope one of the Emu folks reads 
this:)  If ya do please respond i would love to know even if you 
like the idea or not.  No strings.

Peace 

Mike G.



--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Do sequence a lot live? I never really did that with the XL-7, 
although 
> that's ALL I do when I bring my ER-1 out.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> Like when i am using the 808 and 909 so during a live proformance 
i would 
> be ok but when sitting at home looking for sounds it would be 
kinda 
> anoying.

<<<<
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this list is copied and compiled into a larger list that we keep. We may
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sean at e-mu / ensoniq
>>>>>

Sweeet!
How bout this one for the step sequencer (And I think this one is pure gold
guys), How about turning the 16 edit knobs into volume for each step in the step
sequencer!!!  And Program = Pitch and Pan = Pan for the knobs during the step
sequencer???  Or you could make a shortcut to get you into that mode, like Edit
and Knob Function Select!!!  That would be like an analog sequencer and make it
alot easier to enter in steps!

Puhleeeze?

Andre

mikexl7 wrote:
> 
> I just started playing out and I did not do any live sequencing.  I
> have only proformed once with the xl7 and I would say that I would
> not feel comfortable dooing so with it the way it is right now.  I
> was doing alot of tweaking and pattern switching and bar length
> edits but no actual wrighting.
> 
> Off the top of of my head I start thinking about how the 909 is set
> up.  There is obviously a lot more at hand when dealing with the XL7.
> One thing that came to mind is this.  Hmmmmm how to say this so it
> makes sence.....Ok lets try a list of features that would be
> required.
> 
> 1.A way to turn off the triggering of sounds from the pads when in
> grid mode.
> 2. If there was a way of saving names for the sounds in a Kit
> preset, even if you could only do this with a hand full of presets.
> 3. have a feature that shows the name of the sample assigned to the
> pad when you hit it.  This way you could know what the sound was for
> shur when you where programing beats via the gid buttons.
> 
> this would be an ideal way to have it act like a 909 with what is
> already physically present with the xl7.  It wold be just like using
> a 909 except that you would be convined to editing the hole kit
> where in a 909 you are able to edit each sound on its own.
> 
> I would love to see sompthing like this but i am not going to hold
> my breath.
> 
> Honestly I think that having the ability to turn off the sound
> triggering when selecting the sample via the pad when in grid record
> mode would be enuf to do some serious live programing, it would be
> icing if you could actualy save what you have withought it glitching
> but that i don't think is fair to expect.  Unless you where to
> implimet a " very slow save" feature that would save what you had
> over a period of say 30 seconds.  Using any extra power that the cpu
> had to save withought causing the pattern to be interupted.
> 
> Hmmm there is some food for thought, Hope one of the Emu folks reads
> this:)  If ya do please respond i would love to know even if you
> like the idea or not.  No strings.
> 
> Peace
> 
> Mike G.
> 

It has been read. We pretty much read everything that's posted, so you
really don't need to ask if we do.  I think there's still a lot more we
can do with grid record. I like your Grid Record Mode ideas. Features
that enable the xx-7's to be more functional in a live setting are
always on our minds. 
BTW, every feature request, bug report or user operation error made on
this list is copied and compiled into a larger list that we keep. We may
not always be able to directly respond to your e-mails, but we sure do
listen to them.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

Wow i just posted that!

Do you think it would be posible to have the names of the samples 
come up in the window?  or it that just not hapening?

Do you have any thoughts as to how you would do it?

Do you think it is possable to turn of the trigering of the samples 
during grid record?  like a screen that says sompthing like.. 
GRD REC triggering  On or off.  in the pattern edit menue?

I reolize that the majority of people using this thing would 
probible prefer it the way it is now but it would be so cool to have 
this feature!

Thank you for replying to the post and I am quite happy with the new 
os by the way.  I was freaked out at first but the problems that I 
was having where on my end and not yor fault.  The pattern swithing 
is now working very well.  Also the new paste features are great, 
they save me alot of time in some cases.

Mike G.



 
> It has been read. We pretty much read everything that's posted, so 
you
> really don't need to ask if we do.  I think there's still a lot 
more we
> can do with grid record. I like your Grid Record Mode ideas. 
Features
> that enable the xx-7's to be more functional in a live setting are
> always on our minds. 
> BTW, every feature request, bug report or user operation error 
made on
> this list is copied and compiled into a larger list that we keep. 
We may
> not always be able to directly respond to your e-mails, but we 
sure do

> listen to them.
> 
> sean at e-mu / ensoniq

I like the just of that in a big way.
the thought is very new to me and i have little to say about it but 
dam that could be cool. expesialy the pitch edit.

it in conjunction with the ability to turn off the triggering of the 
sounds when selecting samples would be sweeeeeet!

or even being able to set the decay for each of the beats or or or 
or hmmmmmm gets the juces flowing.

Mike


--- In xl7@y..., "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> <<<<
> BTW, every feature request, bug report or user operation error 
made on
> this list is copied and compiled into a larger list that we keep. 
We may
> not always be able to directly respond to your e-mails, but we 
sure do
> listen to them.
> 
> sean at e-mu / ensoniq
> >>>>>
> 
> Sweeet!
> How bout this one for the step sequencer (And I think this one is 
pure gold
> guys), How about turning the 16 edit knobs into volume for each 
step in the step
> sequencer!!!  And Program = Pitch and Pan = Pan for the knobs 
during the step
> sequencer???  Or you could make a shortcut to get you into that 
mode, like Edit
> and Knob Function Select!!!  That would be like an analog 
sequencer and make it

> alot easier to enter in steps!
> 
> Puhleeeze?
> 
> Andre

Andre ... you hit the nail on the head.  This would truly be 
AWESOME!!!  
- grimley


> How bout this one for the step sequencer (And I think this one is 
pure gold
> guys), How about turning the 16 edit knobs into volume for each 
step in the step
> sequencer!!!  And Program = Pitch and Pan = Pan for the knobs 
during the step
> sequencer???  Or you could make a shortcut to get you into that 
mode, like Edit
> and Knob Function Select!!!  That would be like an analog sequencer 
and make it

> alot easier to enter in steps!
> 
> Puhleeeze?
> 
> Andre

One of the features I love most in all of my gear is the mod 
sequencer on the Korg MS2000.  Now if we could assign the knobs as 
below but for any parameter of the preset ... WOW!!!  Not only would 
it blow the MS2K Mod Seq out of the water, this would probably be a 
great selling point for the XL-7.
- grimley

> > How bout this one for the step sequencer (And I think this one 
is 
> pure gold
> > guys), How about turning the 16 edit knobs into volume for each 
> step in the step
> > sequencer!!!  And Program = Pitch and Pan = Pan for the knobs 
> during the step
> > sequencer???  Or you could make a shortcut to get you into that 
> mode, like Edit
> > and Knob Function Select!!!  That would be like an analog 
sequencer 

> and make it
> > alot easier to enter in steps!
> > 
> > Puhleeeze?
> > 
> > Andre

mikexl7 wrote:
> > 1.A way to turn off the triggering of sounds from the pads when in
>grid mode.
>2. If there was a way of saving names for the sounds in a Kit
>preset, even if you could only do this with a hand full of presets.
>3. have a feature that shows the name of the sample assigned to the
>pad when you hit it.  This way you could know what the sound was for
>shur when you where programing beats via the gid buttons.
>
> >DittO,

As my intentions for the XL-7 were to use it live,I've found this 
"feature"to be a potentially serious purchase consideration.
If I wasn't so sold on it's other capabilities I'd have to pass.
Of course I don't have the manual with me right now,but my little brain is 
trying to justify this away with a work-around.e.g.:

If the xx-7 can be playing "anything-in-any-mode" through the main outs,
while routing the "grid" to the sub-outs(or phones?),then I could audition 
the subs in "cue" on my mixer,
and not worry about unwanted/unintentional sounds triggering through the 
house.(basically I cue everything anyway...)

How'bout GRD-MUTE,just for certain eventualities.
And/or GRD-AUD.I realize this appears to some, as being the same as on/off.I 
find AUD/MUTE more sound-specific...

Best,
g.




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Wicked idea!  That's one of the best ones I've seen yet, good one mate!

rEalm




How bout this one for the step sequencer (And I think this one is pure 
gold
guys), How about turning the 16 edit knobs into volume for each step in 
the step
sequencer!!!  And Program = Pitch and Pan = Pan for the knobs during the 
step
sequencer???  Or you could make a shortcut to get you into that mode, like 
Edit
and Knob Function Select!!!  That would be like an analog sequencer and 
make it
alot easier to enter in steps!

Puhleeeze?

Andre




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I love that idea!!

Biomech

 
> Sweeet!
> How bout this one for the step sequencer (And I think this one is 
pure gold
> guys), How about turning the 16 edit knobs into volume for each 
step in the step
> sequencer!!!  And Program = Pitch and Pan = Pan for the knobs 
during the step
> sequencer???  Or you could make a shortcut to get you into that 
mode, like Edit
> and Knob Function Select!!!  That would be like an analog sequencer 
and make it

> alot easier to enter in steps!
> 
> Puhleeeze?
> 
> Andre

You do know that you can do this in step edit mode, right?  =)

Simply turn the desired knob during each step, pressing Play to advance
after each step.

-Aaron

> One of the features I love most in all of my gear is the mod
> sequencer on the Korg MS2000.  Now if we could assign the knobs as
> below but for any parameter of the preset ... WOW!!!  Not only would
> it blow the MS2K Mod Seq out of the water, this would probably be a
> great selling point for the XL-7.
> - grimley

Aaron,
Yeah ... but I was thinking more of a realtime feature like Andre 
mentions in his post where each knob corresponds to one step.  So 
for instance as the sequence plays back you can adjust the 
volume/pan/cutoff/resonance etc. etc. of any of the 16 steps in 
realtime.
-grimley

--- In xl7@y..., "Aaron Eppolito" <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> You do know that you can do this in step edit mode, right?  =)
> 
> Simply turn the desired knob during each step, pressing Play to 
advance
> after each step.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> > One of the features I love most in all of my gear is the mod
> > sequencer on the Korg MS2000.  Now if we could assign the knobs 
as
> > below but for any parameter of the preset ... WOW!!!  Not only 
would
> > it blow the MS2K Mod Seq out of the water, this would probably 
be a
> > great selling point for the XL-7.
> > - grimley

Whoa! That's a great idea.

That would make it more easy to do things like "trance gates" 'n 
stuff (there has to be a better word for it).

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@y..., "grimleyj2000" <grimley@i...> wrote:

> Aaron,
> Yeah ... but I was thinking more of a realtime feature like Andre 
> mentions in his post where each knob corresponds to one step.  So 
> for instance as the sequence plays back you can adjust the 
> volume/pan/cutoff/resonance etc. etc. of any of the 16 steps in 
> realtime.
> -grimley
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "Aaron Eppolito" <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> > You do know that you can do this in step edit mode, right?  =)
> > 
> > Simply turn the desired knob during each step, pressing Play to 
> advance
> > after each step.
> > 
> > -Aaron
> > 
> > > One of the features I love most in all of my gear is the mod
> > > sequencer on the Korg MS2000.  Now if we could assign the knobs 
> as
> > > below but for any parameter of the preset ... WOW!!!  Not only 
> would
> > > it blow the MS2K Mod Seq out of the water, this would probably 
> be a
> > > great selling point for the XL-7.
> > > - grimley