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controlling VSTi

controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by coscon23

i got inspired to try this after reading last weeks thread. got pro52 
nicely controlled but it won't work with waldorf's attack. anyone 
tried this?... 
also... cc numbers on the mp7 won't go further than 96 or 
something... why don't they go to 126/127?

peter.

Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by coscon23

--- In xl7@y..., "coscon23" <coscon@i...> wrote:
> 
> i got inspired to try this after reading last weeks thread. got 
pro52 
> nicely controlled but it won't work with waldorf's attack. anyone 
> tried this?... 
> also... cc numbers on the mp7 won't go further than 96 or 
> something... why don't they go to 126/127?

sorry.. i just noticed cc goes up to 119... still, why not all the 
way (127)?

on another note... wouldn't it be great to have the possibility to 
assign knobs differently for different midichannels? for instance 
midich 1=> knobs control pro52, midich 2=> knobs control ppgwave, 
etc...

Re: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by Nick Rothwell

> sorry.. i just noticed cc goes up to 119... still, why not all the 
> way (127)?

Values 120..127 aren't controller numbers in that sense; they're
various kinds of mode changes.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

Re: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by Sean Wilhelmsen

> on another note... wouldn't it be great to have the possibility to
> assign knobs differently for different midichannels? for instance
> midich 1=> knobs control pro52, midich 2=> knobs control ppgwave,
> etc...

You can have each knob do something different. Use programmable mode for the
knobs. Each Knob have its own MIDI channel and controller number. You can
save your knob layout within a Multi Setup (global, third page). This allows
you to have 63 custom knob layouts.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

RE: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by Andre Lewis

Rather they CAN be used as control changes, however usually the hardware
manufacturer uses them for things like effects block on/off or program change,
bank change etc.
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From: Nick Rothwell [mailto:nick@...]
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Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi


> sorry.. i just noticed cc goes up to 119... still, why not all the
> way (127)?

Values 120..127 aren't controller numbers in that sense; they're
various kinds of mode changes.

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  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org


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Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by coscon23

thanx sean... as usual my question was probably not clear enough... i 
meant changing the knob values in the same pattern/multi-setup for 
every track/channel... 
so ; pattrn 001, multi-setup 001, tr 1 (ch1) => knob1 value 74, tr2 
(ch2) => knob 1 value 67 
hope this is a bit more clear... will probably be impossible to 
implement in a new OS (just like my idea to have something similar to 
TR808's "Intro/Fill In" system)

--- In xl7@y..., "Sean Wilhelmsen" <seanw@e...> wrote:
> 
> > on another note... wouldn't it be great to have the possibility to
> > assign knobs differently for different midichannels? for instance
> > midich 1=> knobs control pro52, midich 2=> knobs control ppgwave,
> > etc...
> 
> You can have each knob do something different. Use programmable 
mode for the
> knobs. Each Knob have its own MIDI channel and controller number. 
You can
> save your knob layout within a Multi Setup (global, third page). 
This allows
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> you to have 63 custom knob layouts.
> 
> sean at e-mu / ensoniq

Re: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by Nick Rothwell

> Rather they CAN be used as control changes, however usually the hardware
> manufacturer uses them for things like effects block on/off or program change,
> bank change etc.

Nope: they're part of the standard: 120 is All Sound Off, 121 is All
Controllers Off, and so on. I suspect that practically every module
out there responds to local control on/off and omni/mono/poly changes
as per the standard, rather than allowing them as data controllers.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

RE: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi

2002-05-24 by Andre Lewis

For hardware.  I'm saying that you can assign these to various software packages
which don't usually care about such messages, many soft syns, sequencers etc.
I've had tons of gear that behave differently for each kind of message.  My
Alesis Quadraverb 2 used these messages to switch effects blocks on and off, or
to bypass or whatnot.
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From: Nick Rothwell [mailto:nick@...]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:24 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: controlling VSTi


> Rather they CAN be used as control changes, however usually the hardware
> manufacturer uses them for things like effects block on/off or program change,
> bank change etc.

Nope: they're part of the standard: 120 is All Sound Off, 121 is All
Controllers Off, and so on. I suspect that practically every module
out there responds to local control on/off and omni/mono/poly changes
as per the standard, rather than allowing them as data controllers.

--

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org


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