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Okay, I have had this thing for like 6 months and I don't have a clue as to 
what I am doing.  I can program simple patterns, that's easy but are they 
songs, I pretty much only use the grid recording.  I have never had any 
musical training in any way, i can't even play an instrument  but i do like 
playing with my xl7 but i have come to a dead lock and have only been messing 
with the same ten patterns that a made the in the first three months that i 
had the damn thing and now i don't know what to do next.  pretty much all i 
do with my patterns is mess with the knobs. so what i was thinking was that 
maybe if some one heard the patterns i made they can give me a few ideas as 
to what to do next... i am just looking for suggestions.   
                
                thanks 
                           drowning in St. Louis


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> I have never had any musical training in any way, i can't even play 
an instrument

You should really get some sort of musical training. Piano lessions 
can do miracles to your music production. Knowledge about music 
theory is really helpful to do more complex harmonies and melodies.

When you have more experience, you might need some new sounds to the 
synth as well. The ZR rom has a really beautiful piano, and a few 
other useful presets, but the rest is bad. The World rom has 
wonderful percussion. The Beat Garden rom is just amazing.

finally, my last hint I can give you is to listen to more sorts of 
music. If you're used to only listen to techno, dance, and so on, 
check out something completley different. Jazz perhaps. Bobo Stenson 
Trio, Esbjörn Svensson Trio, etc. etc.

finally, you could get some inspiration from the music at 
(advertising warning) www.nifflas.com =)

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, HighDensity303@a... wrote:
> Okay, I have had this thing for like 6 months and I don't have a 
clue as to 
> what I am doing.  I can program simple patterns, that's easy but 
are they 
> songs, I pretty much only use the grid recording.  I have never had 
any 
> musical training in any way, i can't even play an instrument  but i 
do like 
> playing with my xl7 but i have come to a dead lock and have only 
been messing 
> with the same ten patterns that a made the in the first three 
months that i 
> had the damn thing and now i don't know what to do next.  pretty 
much all i 
> do with my patterns is mess with the knobs. so what i was thinking 
was that 
> maybe if some one heard the patterns i made they can give me a few 
ideas as 

> to what to do next... i am just looking for suggestions.   
>                 
>                 thanks 
>                            drowning in St. Louis
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

This may sound like a cop out, but have you at least read the manual a 
couple of times through?  Yeah, it's not the most fun thing to do, but it 
really DOES help.

rEalm





HighDensity303@...
01/27/2003 07:06 PM
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Okay, I have had this thing for like 6 months and I don't have a clue as 
to 
what I am doing.  I can program simple patterns, that's easy but are they 
songs, I pretty much only use the grid recording.  I have never had any 
musical training in any way, i can't even play an instrument  but i do 
like 
playing with my xl7 but i have come to a dead lock and have only been 
messing 
with the same ten patterns that a made the in the first three months that 
i 
had the damn thing and now i don't know what to do next.  pretty much all 
i 
do with my patterns is mess with the knobs. so what i was thinking was 
that 
maybe if some one heard the patterns i made they can give me a few ideas 
as 
to what to do next... i am just looking for suggestions. 
 
                thanks 
                           drowning in St. Louis


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I played drums in middle school but never learned notes.  I wish I knew how 
to play the piano.. it would really help.. One thing that has helped me is a 
chord book I picked up.  It has pics of all the chords on a piano.  I was 
just going to ask a similar question about not having musical training and 
what could help...


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I think that music training can help...and it can't too.  If you want to 
improve your knowledge of music in general, then yes some training may 
help.  It can also give you a common language with which to talk to other 
musicians (you'll know what they mean if they say a song is in F dorian 
for example).  However, we have the capabilities now to make music that 
doesn't depend on traditional music skills, and in that regard, I think 
that music training can almost be harmful.  You get stuck into trying to 
do things just because that's the way you're supposed to, versus doing 
things because of the way they SOUND.  So piano class may or may not help. 
 I think it would be far better to say learn music theory I and II (most 
colleges offer cheap classes on this) than the paino.  At least that way 
you're leaning the language, and you can decide later if you then want to 
learn the instrument that uses that language.

Just my $.02
rEalm






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01/28/2003 08:03 AM
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I played drums in middle school but never learned notes.  I wish I knew 
how 
to play the piano.. it would really help.. One thing that has helped me is 
a 
chord book I picked up.  It has pics of all the chords on a piano.  I was 
just going to ask a similar question about not having musical training and 

what could help...


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Thanks for all of your input you guys have given me a little boost.  I have 
only had the xl-7 for like six months and I do read the book every chance I 
get but some of it is a little hard to comprehend but I am slowly getting it 
down.  Hopefully in another six months I will know more but I think I have 
come to the decision that I need to take up the piano to get a greater 
understanding of music...


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