Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

i know that a bank in the xl is simply a msb and lsb vaule which in 
the new os can be checked by simply pressing the audition key. page 
37 of the manual. does this help ?


-- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "smw-mail \(VZ out P in\)" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> Excellent feature!!!!!!  Thanks for (1) asking the question, (2) 
finding out
> the answer, and (3) posting the answer.
> 
> I didn't realize that multisetups are simply program changes at 
MSB=80.
> 
> You can test this feature with an external sequencer (such as a 
computer)
> that sends bank/patch number data.
> 
> WARNING # 1:
> BE SURE TO SAVE CURRENT MULTISETUP BEFORE TRYING THIS!!!
> I'm not sure what happens to the current multisetup when you bank 
switch to
> a saved multisetup.  Intuitively, I would think there is no way to 
recall
> the unsaved multisetup.
> 
> WARNING: #2:
> If your gear is currently wired with a closed MIDI loop
> [ eg. GEAR-MIDI Out --> Cakewalk-Echo MIDI Out --> GEAR-MIDI In]
> if you bank switch to a multisetup that accepts MIDI In and also 
Merges MIDI
> Out,
> you might get an endless midi feedback loop lockup.
> 
> Now, if only patterns and songs were accessible via bank/patch 
selection!!!!
> Anyone know what else is selectable?
> 
> Dr. Steve
> 
> 
> ==========================================
> Message: 17
>    Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:01:09 -0000
>    From: "honkeyhindu" <honkeyhindu@c...>
> Subject: no longer insane ..getting muti to work  with presets
> 
> i must say that i am surprised that no one sets up multis with
> presets and if they do ..on one wanted to ans the question..i 
fianlly
> turned to the emu website and they helped me out.Wonderfull feeling
> 
> this is what i got from the tech support
> 
> You can recall the multisetup from within the pattern and that 
should
> solve the problem.
> In pattern edit go to Event and enter program change data and Bank
> select change data. For Multisetups : MSB=80, LSB=00 and then the
> Program change = the Multisetup number.
> 
> but there is more to go ..this did not work for me
> you have to make shure that prg ch is enabled for that particular 
midi

> ch and you have to set the destination both,inter would prb work but
> i did not check that out. hoora ho ra   peace
> 
> ==========================================

--> (2)  Multisetup program changes repeat as the pattern loops.  So, 
if 
> you have one multisetup at 001.01.01 that sends out midi clock data 
> and another multisetup that doesn't send out midi clock data at 
> measure 004.01.01 of an 8 measure pattern, you will either:

i must admit that within a pattern i have not yet had a reason to 
switch multi setup ...it has only been when going from a pattern to 
pattern that i have had reason to do so and YES THERE ARE PROBLEMS . 
Stuck notes,weird sounds for the first note. Almost like a morphing 
effect if the patch had too long a decay. The decaying sound usually 
modulates when i dont want that to happen. So far i have been able to 
work arround them by changing my arrangements sightly. Very tedious 
work very annoying. I am shure that i will not buy another emu for a 
sequencer. I whish i could get my hands on a qy100. I would love to 
see how they compete. I think that the emu engineers gave the 
mutlisetup for differnt resons and not for the ones that you and i 
are trying to use it for. It great when everthing is static. The 
processor in the emu is not the best. One has to be so carefull about 
how the pattern is arranged. How long the notes are how many 
different cont controll changes one does to a patch. I stopped using 
it as a sequecer for a couple of weeks and stepped back to the 
computer world and i have had much more accomplished. ITs a 
wonderfull sound module and sequecer as long as you dont push its 
limits and so far i have found that that limit is easy to reach.




- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> > i know that a bank in the xl is simply
> >  a msb and lsb vaule which in 
> > the new os can be checked by simply
> >  pressing the audition key. page 
> > 37 of the manual. does this help ?
> 
> The audition button will tell you the ROM/RAM address of the basic 
> preset (the one in the display).
> MSB:000 LSB:000  = User Memory, Bank 0
> MSB:017 LSB:002  = P2500 ROM, Bank 2
> MSB:007 LSB:003  = XLEAD ROM, Bank 3
> 
> The audition button tells you nothing about multisetups.
> 
> >> In pattern edit go to Event and enter
> >> program change data and Bank
> >> select change data. For Multisetups
> >> : MSB=80, LSB=00 and then the
> >> Program change = the Multisetup number.
> >> 
> >> but there is more to go ..this did not work for me
> 
> Did you ever get this to work for you?  I just tested it on the 
P2500 
> and it worked.
> 
> WARNING 1: If you try this, it will wipe out your current settings, 
> UNLESS you have saved them in a multisetup. 
> 
> WARNING 2: Using this technique it would seem you can do some very 
> simple pattern setups or you can do some absurdly complex stuff.  
Use 
> this technique at your own risk!!
> 
> 1.  STRONGLY RECOMMENDED:  If you want to keep your current setup, 
> save it to an empty multisetup location.  Unless you do this, you 
> will not be able to restore the settings. (This includes MIDI clock 
> settings, viewing angle, etc.)
> 
> 2.  Select an empty pattern to edit.
> 
> 3.  At the Edit Event menu press exter to edit.
> 
> 4.  Insert a new event [press repeat].
>     It should be at 001.01.01.
> 
> 5.  Make the new event a program change event
>     where m:=80 and l:=0 and
>     prog:= the number of a multisetup.
> 
> 6.  Save the pattern.
> 
> 7.  Since you are already in pattern mode
>     once you confirm the pattern save,
>     the pre-performance data should "play."
>     That is, the multisetup should change.
> 
> IMPORTANT NOTES:
> (1)  I tested this using multisetups with different viewing angle 
and 
> midi clock out settings.  I did not test this with with note data. 
> 
> (2)  Multisetup program changes repeat as the pattern loops.  So, 
if 
> you have one multisetup at 001.01.01 that sends out midi clock data 
> and another multisetup that doesn't send out midi clock data at 
> measure 004.01.01 of an 8 measure pattern, you will either:
> 
>    (a) have fun figuring out new ways
>        to slave clock devices to the E-Mu gear.
>    (b) drive youself crazy tring to figure out
>        why external slaves seem to be rebelling.
> 
> As for me I'm starting to fantasize composing a grand opus for two 
> freewheeling E-Mu's.
> 
> (3) Since I haven't tested this with actual note data, I have no 
idea 
> if there are auditory glitches when multisetups changes.
> 
> (4) Since multisetups store (among other things) preset data for 
all 
> channels, switching multisetups without careful planning can 
produce 

> unwanted effects.
> 
> Dr. Steve