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http://www.roland.co.jp/worldwide/products/NEW/html/MV-8000.html

Uh oh.... this could be pretty cool.

realm



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Better contact the bank about that 2nd mortgage.... ;)

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  Subject: [xl7] New Roland Unit


  http://www.roland.co.jp/worldwide/products/NEW/html/MV-8000.html

  Uh oh.... this could be pretty cool.

  realm



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Yeah, same league as the MPC4000, so I'm guessing about $1695.00 street 
price, if not more.

rEalm





Stu <routerman@...>
07/08/2003 09:09 AM
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Better contact the bank about that 2nd mortgage.... ;)
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  Subject: [xl7] New Roland Unit


  http://www.roland.co.jp/worldwide/products/NEW/html/MV-8000.html

  Uh oh.... this could be pretty cool.

  realm



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> The sequencer is pretty rudimentary though. I've never understood 
the point 
> of getting an MPC-4000 instead of just buying the Akai drumpad 
controller 
> and using it with a computer. Which is basically what you're doing 
anyway.

Not really, it has a totaly different feel.  Theres more than just 
pads, plus its more portable (un;ess you use a laptop)

I meant the Roland. According to the spec list it's linear-only, no patterns, no 
RPS, no mute buttons, no grid edit. It's basically a glorified tape recorder.

A friend of mine has the MC-80 and aside from the excellent RPS feature I 
didn't find it particularly interesting unless you're allergic to software (in which 
case you might be better off buying a Q-80EXE for a quarter the price).


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

> If you mean the Akai sequencer is rudimentary, yeah, maybe.  If you mean 
> the Roland sequencer, I disagree.  This looks like it's a new MC80 with 
> sampling to boot, and the MC80 was a pretty indepth sequencer.
> 
> rEalm

I meant the Roland. According to the spec list it's linear-only, no 
patterns, no 
RPS, no mute buttons, no grid edit. It's basically a glorified tape 
recorder.

>>>I'd be very surprised if it didn't have those features, since they're 
on nearly every Roland MIDI sequencer.  The spec list was far from 
complete I'm sure, we'll know more after next Friday most likely. <<<

A friend of mine has the MC-80 and aside from the excellent RPS feature I 
didn't find it particularly interesting unless you're allergic to software 
(in which case you might be better off buying a Q-80EXE for a quarter the 
price).

>>>Yeah, I've changed my mind on it too.  Good if you want a strictly 
hardware based setup, but definitely can't touch software. <<<

rEalm


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> If you mean the Akai sequencer is rudimentary, yeah, maybe.  If you mean 

> the Roland sequencer, I disagree.  This looks like it's a new MC80 with 
> sampling to boot, and the MC80 was a pretty indepth sequencer.
> 
> rEalm




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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "jesse_medway" <medway808@h...> wrote:
> 
> > The sequencer is pretty rudimentary though. I've never understood 
> the point 
> > of getting an MPC-4000 instead of just buying the Akai drumpad 
> controller 
> > and using it with a computer. Which is basically what you're doing 
> anyway.
> 
> Not really, it has a totaly different feel.  Theres more than just 
> pads, plus its more portable (un;ess you use a laptop)

I'm sure the feel is different, I just don't think the difference in feel makes up for 
the relative loss of functionality. The MPC-4k is a compromise between a 
DAW and a performance tool that in my opinion excels at neither: an XL-7 is 
more immediate, a laptop is more versatile. Obviously lots of people swear by 
them, but I'm not one of those people.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> >>>I'd be very surprised if it didn't have those features, since they're 
> on nearly every Roland MIDI sequencer.  The spec list was far from 
> complete I'm sure, we'll know more after next Friday most likely. <<<

For their sake I hope you're right - the MC-909 has a better sequencer in most 
respects (it has fewer tracks and lacks a true linear mode). Roland does have 
a bad habit of leaving out features sometimes...seems like they could use a 
little more communication between product teams.