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fantastic job taking a simple post sharing some thoughts about old synths that have some cool presets completely out of context....You win!


> On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:17 PM, PeWe ha-pewe@... [xpantastic] <xpantastic@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Best factory patches or not,- at the end of the day,- all matter of taste, isn´t it ?
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> Methinks, Tony is more or less right !
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> There were the times, factory patches just only demo´ed the functionality of a machine and were not done for "usage out of the box".
> You´ll recognize investigating in  p.ex. Xpander/ M12 factory patches which lack assignment of sustain pedal and other global MIDI controllers p.ex..
> At that time, a manufacturer expected a customer buying a user-programmable machine will exactly do that,- 
> Programming the machine for whatever purpose in mind.
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> I´m sayin´ even I own a Wavestation SR, M1Rex, D-550 and a Kurzweil PC361,- which surpasses a Kurz K2x00 series feature- and sound-wise, except lack of sampling.
> Now guess how many factory sounds I´ve ever used from Wavestation SR, M1Rex, D-550 or even the PC361 ...
> Almost NONE !
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> And on my Oberheim Xpander, I never used any patch the way it came when I bought it new as 1st owner,- as also not the patches from factory volume #2 or the M12 factory stuff.
> They were always some stuff being ideal for reverse engineering, edit to taste or create something new from,- but I never ever used ´em like they were.
> Who wants everyone owning the same machine(s) using the same sounds ?
> Is that creativity,- or does that make a hit ?
> Nope !
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> "... love for ethereal/pad/soundscape type patches..." is the same BS to me like blues guitarists tell me "all comes from feelin´".
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> In music (business), nothing comes from love or feeling ...
> It all comes from hard work and (resulting) knowledge.
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> Good music comes from good composition and arrangement, tweaking the sounds to fit the tune.
> Never ever was a piece of gear or a sound the most important part of a commercial successful tune/song.
> There´s some recognition value existing related to some "signature" sounds,- but that´s all.
> The success of a composition/arrangement never depended on a synth´s patch,- vintage synth or not.
> It´s all replacable,- except the idea, composition and arrangement.
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> P.
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>> Am 04.02.2019 um 21:56 schrieb Omar Torres holografique@... [xpantastic]:
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>> Definitely NOT always the case. A few I can think of off the top of my head that had (some, not all) great patches:
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>> Korg Wavestation AD/SR
>> Korg M1
>> Korg Prophecy / Z1
>> Roland JD-990
>> Roland D-50
>> Roland D-70
>> Roland XV-5080
>> Roland V-Synth
>> Kurzweil K2x00
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>> Mind you, my list is based on a love for ethereal/pad/soundscape type patches. So YMMV...
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>> And god knows the countless software synths that have had some incredible preset design work over the past decade or so.
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>> -o
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>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Tony Cappellini cappy2112@... [xpantastic] <xpantastic@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> >>  The Xpander/M-12 factory patches have to be some of the worst ever and are pretty embarrassing given the power of the synths. 
>>> Isn't that always the case? Are there any synths that you've owned that have very good factory patches?
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