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Hello All
Has any one noticed that you can adjust the XPANDER/M12 LFO speed in 
between the standard 0-63 settings by using recursive modulation. Just 
modulate the LFO with Itself. Adjusting the modulation amount will 
change the rate in small increments. I don't know if this works on the 
M1K though. 

Karl

Karl

You can almost modulate any source by itself. (in the XP/M12)

Which parameter in the LFO are you modulating by the same LFO?

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Karl <shire03@...> wrote:
> Hello All
> Has any one noticed that you can adjust the XPANDER/M12 LFO speed in
> between the standard 0-63 settings by using recursive modulation. Just
> modulate the LFO with Itself. Adjusting the modulation amount will
> change the rate in small increments. I don't know if this works on the
> M1K though.
>
> Karl
>
>

Hi Again,

I finally have a little time to be more clear on the LFO help post.

I know the M12/Expander is one the few synths to allow a mod source 
to modulate itself. I use this all the time when I want really long 
envelopes. Now, I understand this is common knowledge among the 
Modular Synth Community. However in theory the LFO modulating it's 
own rate should make the LFO rate speed up and slow down right?
But what seems to happen is the rate will increase a small amount and 
stay there(or decrease if mod is negative). I like to experiment with 
LFO triggered envolopes. When I try to get these rates close to a 
Beats Per Minute number I find It's somewhere in between what I need. 
By modulating the LO rate by the same LFO I can usually adjust out 
any error. 
I don't know what led me to this discovery but It works on my M12. I 
can't really say about the Xpander.   

Karl

--- In xpantastic@yahoogroups.com, Karl Schmeer <shire03@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>   I'm sorry, the rate of the LFO by the output of the same LFO. 
eg..  LFO1 RATE  by LFO1 .  
>    
>   Karl
>   
> Tony Cappellini <cappy2112@...> wrote:
>           Karl
> 
> You can almost modulate any source by itself. (in the XP/M12)
> 
> Which parameter in the LFO are you modulating by the same LFO?
> 
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Karl <shire03@...> wrote:
> > Hello All
> > Has any one noticed that you can adjust the XPANDER/M12 LFO speed 
in
> > between the standard 0-63 settings by using recursive modulation. 
Just
> > modulate the LFO with Itself. Adjusting the modulation amount will
> > change the rate in small increments. I don't know if this works 
on the

> > M1K though.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
>