Hi all, hee is the Mars Tips... Don't hesitate to try some of them, if they are not Ok please do a report :o) Edit the TXT file , a do the change by yourself or send me an Email and I will do it... igorbolender@noos.fr Enjoy. Igor Mars Tips are: Quick view : *Create a splitZone in Logic *key tips *record/Playback delay calibration ( how ?) *What´s the best way to get aux send automation from 4.8.1 *How fade out 5 track midis in the same time *open another audio instrument track while keeping the instrument... *the automation with an Arpeggiator object... *Triggering drums in Logic *Region automation to Track Automation... *************************************** >I'd like to know how to make a splitzone in Logic >making me able to play a multisampled double bass on >my sampler with the lower notes and the EVP 88 Rhodes >in Logic with the upper keys. You can do this with hardware synths or one virtual instrument and one hardware instrument, but you can't do it with two virtual instruments, because the Environment will only communicate with one at a time. Use a transformer assigned to an arrange track. Cable the top outlet to the instrument serving one of the destination synths and cable the next outlet to the instrument serving the other. (One of these can be an audio object for a soft synth.) Set the transformer mode to "Condition Splitter ...". Set the condition status (top row) to = and "Note". Set the Pitch condition <= and set the note number to the top note of the bottom half of the split. Len ********************************** I just rediscovered a little tip that I haven't used in so many years that I had literally forgotten about it. And in the process, discovered a new one. The old tip: In the event list, whatever your most recently edited parameter is, it's value can be incremented or decremented by the key "+" and control "-" keys. The new tip: Using shift + and shift - increments or decrements the value by ten increments at a time. This is fine for velocity but when you do this on the second or third value in the time position or in the note name portion of the window, you get some really funny jumps! Could be good for randomizing some things under certain circumstances. Eli Krantzberg but : Thanks for that reminder Eli. Some things to be aware of: This doesn't work at all if the event list is a floating window. On Mac, you just use the + and - keys without If you change pitch, the +/- changes the value by one octave. (Very useful!) Regards - Colin ********************************** Automation Tip for logic5 The manual for 5.0 mentions on p. 21 that track automation data can be edited graphically or numerically, but does not as far as I can tell, ever get round to explain how to do it numerically. The answer's in the on-line help - there is a key command called "Automation Event Edit" Which opens up the current track automation as an event list. HTH Malcolm ******************************** >How fade out 5 track midis in the same time . >There are a command ?? >I know to do this in the master or secting 5 tracks ann a real time >down all the faders.but >My question is if I can do this in other way with a command o function There are several ways, depending on what it is exactly you try to do. If you want to do this "live" you could cable an environment fader into a bunch of instruments, provided they all use the same channel. If on different channels, you need some transformers to make copies of the fader signal on different channels (probably not something a 'newbie' would like to do... even though it's not that difficult :-). If you want a fade-out in non-realtime (i.e. on playback), you can e.g. hyperdraw the fade-out for one instrument, and then copy/paste the fadeout to different instruments. You then only have to adjust the channel of the pasted data. Et cetera... It really depends on what exactly you want to achieve. By far the easiest way probably is indeed to select 5 faders and move them as one. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstr ********************************** SETTING THE DRIVER RECORD DELAY: Assign a midi click track (hard quantized to 4/4) to a fast percussive sound in an external midi device, using a sound with the shortest attack & a device with the fastest response time possible. You need a midi interface and external midi device for this, do NOT use the speaker click. Ideally you would record the actual midi signal out pins on your midi interface to rule out any midi device latency - midi pin 4 = signal, midi pin 2 = ground - but it's difficult to find the clicks in the digital hash. Record-enable a mono track of the audio hardware to be tested, record several bars of the audio click coming from the external midi device. Double click the newly-recorded audio (be careful not move it) to open the sample editor. Make sure it's in bars & beats view (view>>bars/beats). Zoom in real close on one of the clicks, the first waveform of which should ideally be on a bar/beat line in the ruler. If it's early or late, select the audio from the bar/beat line to the recorded click's first waveform peak, and the info bar that appears as you drag-select will tell you the difference in samples as you do so (or you can switch to samples view after making the selection and note the size of the selection at left). Note the record delay you just measured, and whether it was positive (recorded click is after the bar/beat marker) or negative (recorded click comes before the bar/beat marker). There will be some midi jitter, so repeat the measuring for successive clicks (20 or so should do) and find the average record delay. When you have measured the record delay as well as possible, you need to compensate using the driver's "record delay" setting, if there is one. Compensate for a measured positive record latency (the audio was recorded late on average) with a corresponding negative record delay, and vice versa. Repeat the recording and measurements after changing the driver record delay. Tweak the record delay setting & repeat if necessary, etc... You're aiming to get the recorded audio of your click right smack on the bar/beat marks (zero delay on average). This may or may not be possible, depending on your audio hardware/drivers (see the note about Mac AV at the end)... Note that Logic does NOT provide a "record delay" parameter in samples - this is a serious problem. You can use the "ASIO buffer delay" "in" flipmenu, but note that the settings there are in _multiples_ of the ASIO buffer size, so unless you're very lucky you won't even be able to get close. SETTING THE DRIVER PLAYBACK DELAY: Find a good single audio click waveform, trim it so the click begins right at the start of the region, and repeat it on every beat for a few bars. Don't use aliases or loops for this test, use real copies. Record-enable a stereo track, and set up to record the midi click (as for record delay above) hard left, and re-record the playback of the audio click track hard right. Record a few bars of the two together. Open that in the sample editor, and select the difference between the clicks on the left channel & the clicks on the right, noting the delay in samples as you do so. This is the playback latency - if the recorded-on-the-beat audio click is later than the midi click, it's a positive playback latency, etc. Again, due to midi jitter, take the average over a number of clicks (20 or so). Compensate with an appropriate opposite delay in the audio driver's "playback delay" setting. Record again, measure again, tweak as needed until the audio click consistently plays back at the same time as the midi click (zero delay on average). NOTES: Mac AV in particular has appallingly variable audio record/playback latency. Don't beat your head against it too hard. Changing your driver's buffer settings may possibly alter the record/playback latency - test this. The settings will be different for different audio drivers - measure & set separately for each one. The A/D/A converters you are using will have some latency of their own, so there will likely be different settings required depending on whether you're measuring via the analog or digital in/outs for your audio interface. There's not much you can do about this, just pick the one you use most... Similarly, if you have multiple midi interfaces, use the one that's fastest with least jitter (in my case I have MTPAV and MT4 - the MT4 has far less jitter as it doesn't use OMS). -- John Pitcairn *************************** Peter Duemmler wrote: > BTW: What´s the best way to get aux send automation from 4.8.1 running in > 5.0 without reprogramming it? Select your automation tracks, open a transformer, change all "control" data for CCs 28-35 (depending on the amounts of sends you've been using) to "fader". Don't forget to switch all audio objects to "MIDI" before. After that you may want to convert old to new automation data. Regards, Sascha *************************** Thoughts from the mind of machingo, 09-03-2002: >How fade out 5 track midis in the same time . >There are a command ?? >I know to do this in the master or secting 5 tracks ann a real time >down all the faders.but >My question is if I can do this in other way with a command o function There are several ways, depending on what it is exactly you try to do. If you want to do this "live" you could cable an environment fader into a bunch of instruments, provided they all use the same channel. If on different channels, you need some transformers to make copies of the fader signal on different channels (probably not something a 'newbie' would like to do... even though it's not that difficult :-). If you want a fade-out in non-realtime (i.e. on playback), you can e.g. hyperdraw the fade-out for one instrument, and then copy/paste the fadeout to different instruments. You then only have to adjust the channel of the pasted data. Et cetera... It really depends on what exactly you want to achieve. By far the easiest way probably is indeed to select 5 faders and move them as one. ************************** Thoughts from the mind of j0hanne, 10-03-2002: >Just want to know if there is a way to open another audio >instrument track while keeping the instrument and plug-ins that were >on a previous track. Use the audio configuration window to copy inserts between tracks (hand tool plus some modifier key -- option on Mac, and possibly ctl on PC). *********************** I worked with 5.0 last night and was pleased to work with the automation with an Arpeggiator object. For those who maybe haven't noticed: Once you've chosen the base Controller #, each parameter of the arp from the top>down can be controlled by the next Ctrl #, which is available from the drop down list when Automation view is enabled. It is easy to transform different elements of your arp on beat measures, etc by drawing control changes. This is fun and powerful stuff... ************************* Triggering drums in Logic: Here is how to do it, *select you audio track (make sure its 1 continous file) *make a new midi track below it (cntr-T) *set the left locator to the start of the audio part (use a key command, set locators by objects) *set the SPL to the left locator (key command again) *double click the audio track to open the sample editor *from the factory menu select Audio to score *set it up as best you can, RTFM *click ok, now you will have a new midi part lined up perfectly to your audio part *you may have to transpose the midi notes to one note (or more if you have multi samples spread out) I have wrote this from memory so forgive me if I forgot somthing. ****************** Ultimately, I'm trying to use a modwheel to create Track-based automation data. From reading the manual, I believed I could do the following: 1) Record Parameter changes into a region 2) Highlight the region 3) Select Options->Track Automation->Move Object Control Data to Track Automation However, after step 3, no track based automation data has been created. This is on LAWP 5.0.0, BTW