Odp: [sdiy] DSP kit recommend
Paul Maddox
P.Maddox at signal.qinetiq.com
Mon Jun 16 10:36:31 CEST 2003
Theo/magnus,
Given atmels failure at releasing certina products succesfully I would be
seriously worried about it.
To prime examples, the Atmel FPGA, did you guys know they did one?
and that the BIGGEST they did was 40K gates (as opposed to the 10million
gate Xilinx stuff)
the FPSLIC, superb concept, AVR and FPGA in a chip! but it only runs at
33Mhz, shame...
Also the software to use these is licensed!
To use the FPSLIC you have a 6 month license, after that you have to buy
one, and it costs about 500UKP for 6 months..
unless you develop something that atmel can use and they agree it, then they
will give another 6months...
Compare this to the Xilinx webpack, superb IDE, limit of 300Kgate devices,
but its FREE!
I've looked at the Atmel dream chip stuff, and again a superb concept, but
how bad will it be and how much will the software cost?
The Atmel ARMTHUMB, another great idea, but again, 60day license then you
have to buy it from ARM, and you just dont want to know how much the ARM SDK
costs!
The Chameleon uses proven DSPs and CPU, it has an RTOS built in and is dead
simpe to use, oh and the IDE is free...
Dont get me wrong, I LOVE the AVR (atmel micro) but Atmel do seem to make
some monumentally bad decisions when it comes to marketing their stuff.
Paul
> > From: "Theo" <t.hogers at home.nl>
> > Subject: Re: Odp: [sdiy] DSP kit recommend
> > Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:48:57 +0200
> >
> > > What Atmel DSP was that the Dream series music DSP?
> > > I still consider getting in to those.
> > > Kind of chameleon on a single chip.
> >
> > Have they lifted their vail on those?
> > Last time I heard anything about them the details where covered by an
NDA.
> > Really ridiculous...
> >
> Yep agreed,
> At some point there where some "over view" datasheets up (maybe still
are).
> A bit more informative than the "flyers" but still no details about the
> instruction set and stuff.
> Think the link with Roland (JV???) is intriguing too.
>
> > > BTW 1Mhz / 32 or 16Mhz / 512, maybe "some what non standard" but easy
> to
> > > generate.
> >
> > How you get there is really not for the standard to tell, now is it?
> >
> Sure, just that midi baud-rate if often easier to hit than some of the
> "standard" rates.
> At least hardware UART seem to love midi better than RS something
something
> somthing.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Magnus
>
> Have fun,
> Theo
>
>
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