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Re: [200e] considering 200e acquisition- some q's

2008-02-11 by Alexandros Papadopoulos

Are you from Greece Dimitrios?(judging from the name)
There is a person in Thessaloniki who owns some modules, and I am  
planning to see them too!

On Feb 11, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Richard Lainhart wrote:

> I'm not sure I agree with everything Johan says, but he makes one good
> point - even if you can afford a full system, getting a minimal module
> set first, in a full-size cabinet, makes a lot of sense. It gives you
> the chance to learn the basics, and will definitely help you in
> deciding what modules you need for expansion. If you fill up your
> cabinet immediately, you may well find that you're led in a direction
> where you need more of a particular module, or less of another, but
> don't have room to expand. That means that you have to remove or sell
> modules to make space for new ones.
>
> That's what I had to do - I bought a fully-populated 18-space cabinet,
> and after a few weeks of experimentation, realized that I needed
> another oscillator. I had to lose a 256e, a very useful module, to
> make space. So, leaving some room to grow is a good idea.
>
> > The vcs3 is organic by nature, unstable and to a certain degree
> > unpredictable given the patch you set up is complex enough. The 200e
> > is
> > different, in many respects. Buchla modulars 200 and after differs
> > from
> > other modulars in that you do a lot of the timbre design directly on
> > the
> > oscillator. Audio rate FM at high frequencies on the 200e is not as
> > good as
> > in analog synths to be honest. But there are so many other things
> > that are
> > superior with the 200e that i don't mind so much. For getting
> > animated,
> > "living" sounds the 266e Source of uncertainty comes handy, this is
> > how you
> > do organic sounds in the 200e. It is a great module, i have one, and
> > i am
> > planning to get a second one. The ARF is great, it can be used in so
> > many
> > ways, last night i used it for sequencing sound movement in
> > quadraphonic
> > space at a concert. 227e is another favourite of mine.
> > Last year i performed in a mine. I played very loud and one section
> > of the
> > piece was kind of like a bass drone, 261e's with timbre shifts
> > controlled by
> > a slow ARF sequence some stages with lag, some stepped. That was  
> a f-
> > ing
> > physical experience that proved it can do decent bass sounds :)  
> But no
> > illusions. The 200e invites to "'electronic' (chirpy, bleepy,
> > machine-y,
> > high-frequency-y...)" kind of sounds rather than smooth basslines.
> > It is a
> > musical instrument not a swiss army knife.
> > For a 12-panel system i'd suggest:
> >
> > 261e x 2, 281e, 292e, 227e, 266e, 225e
> > Maybe buy this set first and get used to it, then you'll know better
> > what
> > you need to complete with. The rest depends on what kind of stuff
> > you'd like
> > to do with it. Why no 291e initially? While it is a great module,
> > filters
> > are not essential on the 200e IMO since the 261e offers so many  
> sonic
> > possibilities that the filters in the 292e often is quite enough.
> >
> > good luck!
> > Johan
> >
> > 2008/2/11, cellabbee <da108@telus.net>:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am feeling pretty compelled towards this Buchla box -- if I  
> bite I
> > > think I can manage to obtain a mostly full 12-panel cabinet, and
> > > without doubt 2 of the panels will be occupied by the arbitrary
> > > function generator I hear such amazing things about.
> > >
> > > I've read most of the posted messages, which have been helpful,  
> but
> > > have a general concern, which is:
> > >
> > > --- alot of the 200e sounds I hear in files and videos online are
> > very
> > > 'electronic' (chirpy, bleepy, machine-y, high-frequency-y...) but
> > I am
> > > inclined to make more 'natural' and 'organic' sounding noises.  
> I had
> > > some experience with a VCS3 many years back and was able to get
> > sounds
> > > of this latter type.
> > >
> > > So the question is -- does the 200e have this capacity? Maybe I  
> just
> > > am asking folks to confirm, or not, that the 200e can produce  
> pretty
> > > much any sound if one works at it and therefore I shouldn't worry.
> > >
> > > And if so --- any tips on modules that might be helpful in
> > supporting
> > > my sound goals, and/or what modules might I not need so much? Or
> > might
> > > it even be a matter of what happens to the sound once it leaves  
> the
> > > 200e (EQ-ing, reverb, etc...) and to whatever degree that is the
> > case,
> > > then what recommendations does anyone have for further processing?
> > >
> > > Sorry to throw all this out at once!
> > >
> > > thanks -- dimitrios
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
> Richard Lainhart
> http://www.otownmedia.com
> http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart
> http://www.airglowmusic.com
>
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>
> 

--
Alexandros Papadopoulos
Mitropoulou 8th 54644
Thessaloniki, Greece
Phone: +30 2310 868706
Mobile: +30 6972747136





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