Are you from Greece Dimitrios?(judging from the name) There is a person in Thessaloniki who owns some modules, and I am planning to see them too! On Feb 11, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Richard Lainhart wrote: > I'm not sure I agree with everything Johan says, but he makes one good > point - even if you can afford a full system, getting a minimal module > set first, in a full-size cabinet, makes a lot of sense. It gives you > the chance to learn the basics, and will definitely help you in > deciding what modules you need for expansion. If you fill up your > cabinet immediately, you may well find that you're led in a direction > where you need more of a particular module, or less of another, but > don't have room to expand. That means that you have to remove or sell > modules to make space for new ones. > > That's what I had to do - I bought a fully-populated 18-space cabinet, > and after a few weeks of experimentation, realized that I needed > another oscillator. I had to lose a 256e, a very useful module, to > make space. So, leaving some room to grow is a good idea. > > > The vcs3 is organic by nature, unstable and to a certain degree > > unpredictable given the patch you set up is complex enough. The 200e > > is > > different, in many respects. Buchla modulars 200 and after differs > > from > > other modulars in that you do a lot of the timbre design directly on > > the > > oscillator. Audio rate FM at high frequencies on the 200e is not as > > good as > > in analog synths to be honest. But there are so many other things > > that are > > superior with the 200e that i don't mind so much. For getting > > animated, > > "living" sounds the 266e Source of uncertainty comes handy, this is > > how you > > do organic sounds in the 200e. It is a great module, i have one, and > > i am > > planning to get a second one. The ARF is great, it can be used in so > > many > > ways, last night i used it for sequencing sound movement in > > quadraphonic > > space at a concert. 227e is another favourite of mine. > > Last year i performed in a mine. I played very loud and one section > > of the > > piece was kind of like a bass drone, 261e's with timbre shifts > > controlled by > > a slow ARF sequence some stages with lag, some stepped. That was > a f- > > ing > > physical experience that proved it can do decent bass sounds :) > But no > > illusions. The 200e invites to "'electronic' (chirpy, bleepy, > > machine-y, > > high-frequency-y...)" kind of sounds rather than smooth basslines. > > It is a > > musical instrument not a swiss army knife. > > For a 12-panel system i'd suggest: > > > > 261e x 2, 281e, 292e, 227e, 266e, 225e > > Maybe buy this set first and get used to it, then you'll know better > > what > > you need to complete with. The rest depends on what kind of stuff > > you'd like > > to do with it. Why no 291e initially? While it is a great module, > > filters > > are not essential on the 200e IMO since the 261e offers so many > sonic > > possibilities that the filters in the 292e often is quite enough. > > > > good luck! > > Johan > > > > 2008/2/11, cellabbee <da108@telus.net>: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am feeling pretty compelled towards this Buchla box -- if I > bite I > > > think I can manage to obtain a mostly full 12-panel cabinet, and > > > without doubt 2 of the panels will be occupied by the arbitrary > > > function generator I hear such amazing things about. > > > > > > I've read most of the posted messages, which have been helpful, > but > > > have a general concern, which is: > > > > > > --- alot of the 200e sounds I hear in files and videos online are > > very > > > 'electronic' (chirpy, bleepy, machine-y, high-frequency-y...) but > > I am > > > inclined to make more 'natural' and 'organic' sounding noises. > I had > > > some experience with a VCS3 many years back and was able to get > > sounds > > > of this latter type. > > > > > > So the question is -- does the 200e have this capacity? Maybe I > just > > > am asking folks to confirm, or not, that the 200e can produce > pretty > > > much any sound if one works at it and therefore I shouldn't worry. > > > > > > And if so --- any tips on modules that might be helpful in > > supporting > > > my sound goals, and/or what modules might I not need so much? Or > > might > > > it even be a matter of what happens to the sound once it leaves > the > > > 200e (EQ-ing, reverb, etc...) and to whatever degree that is the > > case, > > > then what recommendations does anyone have for further processing? > > > > > > Sorry to throw all this out at once! > > > > > > thanks -- dimitrios > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Richard Lainhart > http://www.otownmedia.com > http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart > http://www.airglowmusic.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Alexandros Papadopoulos Mitropoulou 8th 54644 Thessaloniki, Greece Phone: +30 2310 868706 Mobile: +30 6972747136 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [200e] considering 200e acquisition- some q's
2008-02-11 by Alexandros Papadopoulos
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