sequencing without a sequencer
2011-08-24 by benspost@hotmail.com
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2011-08-24 by benspost@hotmail.com
sorry if this has been covered before, but would it be possible to use the preset manager on a 206e to change the values of a cv source from another e module and control the pitch of a vco from that? then sequence through the 206e presets with an external clock to produce repeatable pitch patterns? are there any e modules that have a voltage controllable cv source? just trying to plan my system.. thanks, ben
2011-08-24 by Adam Scramstad
Hi Ben - Yes the you can step through presets to create sequences. There are limitations - but I believe that makes it even more fun :) Here is a short video I did recently using the 255 as a voltage source along w/ the 210e & 206e: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac_lDnpBoKI I suppose you could use a 256e as a "voltage controllable cv source" like you mentioned. OR maybe use a static CV from any available source and use the 210e as a "preset" voltage controlled attenuator that could create stages of a sequence to be "walked through" w/a 206e? Another non-standard way to get sequences does use the "CV Recording" feature of the 250. Here's another quick vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzvAyt1SfU&feature=related I hope these give you a few ideas :) Best, - Adam On Aug 24, 2011, at 5:02 AM, benspost@hotmail.com wrote: > sorry if this has been covered before, but would it be possible to > use the preset manager on a 206e to change the values of a cv source > from another e module and control the pitch of a vco from that? then > sequence through the 206e presets with an external clock to produce > repeatable pitch patterns? are there any e modules that have a > voltage controllable cv source? > > just trying to plan my system.. > > thanks, ben > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-24 by Arthur
Ben,
Check out the 255 and 256e for cv control possibilities.
Arthur
--- On Wed, 8/24/11, benspost@hotmail.com <benspost@hotmail.com> wrote:From: benspost@hotmail.com <benspost@hotmail.com>
Subject: [200e] sequencing without a sequencer
To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:02 AM
sorry if this has been covered before, but would it be possible to use the preset manager on a 206e to change the values of a cv source from another e module and control the pitch of a vco from that? then sequence through the 206e presets with an external clock to produce repeatable pitch patterns? are there any e modules that have a voltage controllable cv source?
just trying to plan my system..
thanks, ben
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-08-24 by dougc356
Hi Ben, yes you can do this. This is a great vid by eldancer with the preset manager being manually switched to change pitch http://vimeo.com/21824981 If I follow you, I don't think you need a CV source in this case. All module controls (all blue knobs) are stored and recalled via preset, so you can sequence these parameters using the preset manager alone. No CV sources required. Turn the pitch knob, and save the preset. Doug --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, benspost@... wrote:
> > sorry if this has been covered before, but would it be possible to use the preset manager on a 206e to change the values of a cv source from another e module and control the pitch of a vco from that? then sequence through the 206e presets with an external clock to produce repeatable pitch patterns? are there any e modules that have a voltage controllable cv source? > > just trying to plan my system.. > > thanks, ben >
2011-08-24 by Adam Scramstad
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2011-08-24 by benspost@hotmail.com
thanks for your replies i can see how useful the preset manager is and the depth the whole 'e' concept brings to the system! the mind boggles...
2011-08-28 by benspost@hotmail.com
so yesterday i visited rash from this group who kindly showed me round his system, and we tried out the programmer-as-sequencer concept it was very effective at stepping through saved pitch settings on the 261e with no perceptible lag between changes. the problem was it seems there is no way to jump steps on the programmer [other than by a factor of 1], to make a repeating sequence with a switch it would be possible to step forwards a set number of times and then switch the triggers going to the programmer and start stepping backwards down the presets, then switch back to counting up again, etc but it would be so cool to be able control the length of a given sequence of events with the programmer [ie less than the 30 that it gives currently] because you could set up amazing sequences with any parameter being recalled, in a musical way is there a way of doing this?
2011-08-30 by Rash Rahim
Hey Ben - you were very welcome to come around to meet the 200e :-) For you, and the rest of the list, I found a discussion over on Muffwiggler that covers this topic a little. I wonder if in the future B&A will take a look at the preset stepping function to see what, if anything, can be done to improve it. ________________________________
From: "benspost@hotmail.com" <benspost@hotmail.com> To: 200e@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:22 PM Subject: [200e] Re: sequencing without a sequencer so yesterday i visited rash from this group who kindly showed me round his system, and we tried out the programmer-as-sequencer concept it was very effective at stepping through saved pitch settings on the 261e with no perceptible lag between changes. the problem was it seems there is no way to jump steps on the programmer [other than by a factor of 1], to make a repeating sequence with a switch it would be possible to step forwards a set number of times and then switch the triggers going to the programmer and start stepping backwards down the presets, then switch back to counting up again, etc but it would be so cool to be able control the length of a given sequence of events with the programmer [ie less than the 30 that it gives currently] because you could set up amazing sequences with any parameter being recalled, in a musical way is there a way of doing this? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-30 by Rash Rahim
I was too smart arse for my own good: here is the link in full: http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36294&start=20&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= Apologies to the list for the double post. Thanks. ________________________________
From: Rash Rahim <rashemirashim@yahoo.com> To: "200e@yahoogroups.com" <200e@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [200e] Re: sequencing without a sequencer Hey Ben - you were very welcome to come around to meet the 200e :-) For you, and the rest of the list, I found a discussion over on Muffwiggler that covers this topic a little. I wonder if in the future B&A will take a look at the preset stepping function to see what, if anything, can be done to improve it. ________________________________ From: "benspost@hotmail.com" <benspost@hotmail.com> To: 200e@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:22 PM Subject: [200e] Re: sequencing without a sequencer so yesterday i visited rash from this group who kindly showed me round his system, and we tried out the programmer-as-sequencer concept it was very effective at stepping through saved pitch settings on the 261e with no perceptible lag between changes. the problem was it seems there is no way to jump steps on the programmer [other than by a factor of 1], to make a repeating sequence with a switch it would be possible to step forwards a set number of times and then switch the triggers going to the programmer and start stepping backwards down the presets, then switch back to counting up again, etc but it would be so cool to be able control the length of a given sequence of events with the programmer [ie less than the 30 that it gives currently] because you could set up amazing sequences with any parameter being recalled, in a musical way is there a way of doing this? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]