200e

Hi, guys! Happy Easter.
Got some questions for ya:

Anybody own a 256e? I'm interested in it, but I need to know if it's 
possible to do fine scaling with it (are the knobs stepped like in the 
291e or the 210e?)). If it's got stepped increments/decrements, then 
it would have very limited usefulness in a voltage-controlled modular 
system.

Anybody have the latest firmware update? Is pitch-bending already 
possible? I ordered the "kit" 2 months ago but I have yet to get it...


cuari7

What is the "kit" you ordered?


On 16 Apr 2006, at 16:20, cuari7 wrote:

> Hi, guys! Happy Easter.
>  Got some questions for ya:
>
>  Anybody own a 256e? I'm interested in it, but I need to know if it's
>  possible to do fine scaling with it (are the knobs stepped like in the
>  291e or the 210e?)). If it's got stepped increments/decrements, then
>  it would have very limited usefulness in a voltage-controlled modular
>  system.
>
>  Anybody have the latest firmware update? Is pitch-bending already
>  possible? I ordered the "kit" 2 months ago but I have yet to get it...
>
>
>  cuari7
>
>
>
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What is this "kit" you speak of? 

> Anybody have the latest firmware update? Is pitch-bending already 
> possible? I ordered the "kit" 2 months ago but I have yet to get it...
>

On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 21:06 +0100, Stewart Moroney wrote:
> What is the "kit" you ordered?

I assume he's referring to the USB firmware updater that Buchla is
offering. It allows you to download new firmware revs from a Buchla
website to a PC, and update modules' firmware via USB.
-- 
./luther

I see no mention of this on the Buchla website.  Can someone please 
point me to information regarding this?


--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, luther rochester <lrochester@...> wrote:

>
> On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 21:06 +0100, Stewart Moroney wrote:
> > What is the "kit" you ordered?
> 
> I assume he's referring to the USB firmware updater that Buchla is
> offering. It allows you to download new firmware revs from a Buchla
> website to a PC, and update modules' firmware via USB.
> -- 
> ./luther
>

Is this for people who do not own a 225e?

> I assume he's referring to the USB firmware updater that Buchla is
> offering. It allows you to download new firmware revs from a Buchla
> website to a PC, and update modules' firmware via USB.
> -- 
> ./luther
>

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:36 +0000, mritenburg wrote:
> I see no mention of this on the Buchla website.  Can someone please 
> point me to information regarding this?

I don't think there's any written info at this point. You'd have to call
B&A for more info. 
-- 
./luther

it appears there have been some updates to the buchla site
 

luther rochester <lrochester@scooterworks.com> wrote:    On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:36 +0000, mritenburg wrote:
 > I see no mention of this on the Buchla website.  Can someone please 
 > point me to information regarding this?
 
 I don't think there's any written info at this point. You'd have to call
 B&A for more info. 
 -- 
 ./luther
 
            

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--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "mritenburg" <mritenburg@...> wrote:
>
> Is this for people who do not own a 225e?
> 

I'm wondering about this myself. I do not own a 225e, but I have a 
feeling my 259e needs updating (the morph and warp controls have very 
distinct stepping at 10 and 2 o'clock).

Looks like pitchbend is in the new version

http://www.buchla.com/200e/200e_firmware.html


On 16 Apr 2006, at 16:20, cuari7 wrote:

> Hi, guys! Happy Easter.
>  Got some questions for ya:
>
>  Anybody own a 256e? I'm interested in it, but I need to know if it's
>  possible to do fine scaling with it (are the knobs stepped like in the
>  291e or the 210e?)). If it's got stepped increments/decrements, then
>  it would have very limited usefulness in a voltage-controlled modular
>  system.
>
>  Anybody have the latest firmware update? Is pitch-bending already
>  possible? I ordered the "kit" 2 months ago but I have yet to get it...
>
>
>  cuari7
>
>
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> 	▪ 	 Visit your group "200e" on the web.
>  
> 	▪ 	 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  200e-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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I still haven't gotten my answer:

Is the 256e capable of doing fine tuning/scaling or is it stepped like 
the 210e?

Please let me know.


cuari7

Hi cuari7.
No, the 256e is not stepped so YES, you can do fine scaling.

--TOM


--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "cuari7" <cuari7@...> wrote:
>
> I still haven't gotten my answer:
> 
> Is the 256e capable of doing fine tuning/scaling or is it stepped 
like 

> the 210e?
> 
> Please let me know.
> 
> 
> cuari7
>

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "tmeade1974" <tmeade1974@...> wrote:
>
> Hi cuari7.
> No, the 256e is not stepped so YES, you can do fine scaling.
> 
> --TOM


Awrite!!

Thanx, Tom!
 
 cuari7

I just got my 256e yesterday.  After spending some time with it it 
is clear that it IS stepped.   

The knobs being stepped is ok with me.  Digital pots I'd expect to 
have stepping.   Unfortunately the processing it does on a cv also 
exhibits stepping.  

I tried patching a serge LFO (dual universal slope generator as lfo) 
into the 256e with the in side set to 0 volts and the out to 2 
volts.   I then took the output and ran it to a serge precision 
vco.  It audibly showed stepping as the lfo ran from 0 to 10 volts 
getting squashed to 0 to 2 volts by the 256e.  When I set the out 
stage to 8 volts the stepping became less noticeable but was still 
audible.  

I posted an mp3 file of this patch to the group.  About half way 
through you can hear me shift the output on the 256e from 2 volt out 
to 8 volt out with the result of reduced size of the stepping.   

Maybe a future firmware update will provide higher resolution?

Chris

I should add

the stepping of the 256e is MUCH finer than that of the 210e and one 
is able to easily do stuff like rescale a 1v/oct keyboard to the 
buchla's standard.

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "wiardmodular" <wiardmodular@...> wrote:
>
> I should add
> 
> the stepping of the 256e is MUCH finer than that of the 210e and one 
> is able to easily do stuff like rescale a 1v/oct keyboard to the 
> buchla's standard.


This is the main reason I'm getting it anyway. Mine will probably come 
in by tomorrow.........


cuari7

Have you contacted Buchla about this?  I don't have a 256e yet but I'd 
not expect to hear any stepping/quantization happening at all.

On 25 Apr 2006, at 21:49, wiardmodular wrote:

>  I just got my 256e yesterday.  After spending some time with it it
>  is clear that it IS stepped.  
>
>  The knobs being stepped is ok with me.  Digital pots I'd expect to
>  have stepping.   Unfortunately the processing it does on a cv also
>  exhibits stepping. 
>
>  I tried patching a serge LFO (dual universal slope generator as lfo)
>  into the 256e with the in side set to 0 volts and the out to 2
>  volts.   I then took the output and ran it to a serge precision
>  vco.  It audibly showed stepping as the lfo ran from 0 to 10 volts
>  getting squashed to 0 to 2 volts by the 256e.  When I set the out
>  stage to 8 volts the stepping became less noticeable but was still
>  audible. 
>
>  I posted an mp3 file of this patch to the group.  About half way
>  through you can hear me shift the output on the 256e from 2 volt out
>  to 8 volt out with the result of reduced size of the stepping.  
>
>  Maybe a future firmware update will provide higher resolution?
>
>  Chris


		
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--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, Stewart Moroney <sm52uk@...> wrote:
>
> Have you contacted Buchla about this?  I don't have a 256e yet but 
I'd 
> not expect to hear any stepping/quantization happening at all.


Yes, as a matter of fact I did (just yesterday, no less!).

He informed me that yes, there is some stepping, but that the 
resolution was high enough to allow for "fine" scaling, much better 
than the 210e.

I guess I'll know for sure when I get it.


cuari7