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Does 68302 have BDM?

Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-13 by Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) *

I am just curious to know.
 
If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support. Why it is so?

Regards, 
Nitesh Bahekar, 
Software Engineer. (RBIN/EDC3) 
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Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-13 by Tim Stoutamore

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> I am just curious to know.
>  
> If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support. Why it is so?

Unlike the other 683xx parts, the 68302's CPU is the 68000,
not the CPU32 or CPU32P. The 68000 just never had BDM
support.

Tim Stoutamore

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RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-14 by Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) *

What do you mean by static microprocessor design.

Regards, 
Nitesh Bahekar, 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Stoutamore [mailto:stout@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:47 PM
> To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * <Nitesh.Bahekar@...>
> > I am just curious to know.
> >  
> > If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support. 
> Why it is so?
> 
> Unlike the other 683xx parts, the 68302's CPU is the 68000,
> not the CPU32 or CPU32P. The 68000 just never had BDM
> support.
> 
> Tim Stoutamore
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-16 by Charles Melear

Hello everyone,

No, the 68302 does NOT have a BDM mode.  The 68302 is the very first part of the 68300 family.  However, it's design is completely different from the 68332 (for instance).  The 68302 is completely custom logic.  It is not modular like the rest of the 683xx family.  Also, the 68302 has a "68000" core, not a "modified 68020" core.

Regards,

Charlie
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * 
  To: 68300@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 12:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?


  What do you mean by static microprocessor design.

  Regards, 
  Nitesh Bahekar, 

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Tim Stoutamore [mailto:stout@...]
  > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:47 PM
  > To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * <Nitesh.Bahekar@...>
  > > I am just curious to know.
  > >  
  > > If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support. 
  > Why it is so?
  > 
  > Unlike the other 683xx parts, the 68302's CPU is the 68000,
  > not the CPU32 or CPU32P. The 68000 just never had BDM
  > support.
  > 
  > Tim Stoutamore
  > 
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RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-16 by Bob McMillan

Nitesh,

A static design allows the Microprocessor/controller to run at any speed,
below it's max, including down to full stop (or static operation to put it
another way) without losing the data it is processing.

This is used to produce some lower power designs by running static parts at
different frequencies.  I believe it is fairly common now to have static
design so people don't make as big a deal about it.

Hope this helps.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * [mailto:Nitesh.Bahekar@...]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:12 PM
To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?


What do you mean by static microprocessor design.

Regards, 
Nitesh Bahekar, 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Stoutamore [mailto:stout@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:47 PM
> To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * <Nitesh.Bahekar@...>
> > I am just curious to know.
> >  
> > If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support. 
> Why it is so?
> 
> Unlike the other 683xx parts, the 68302's CPU is the 68000,
> not the CPU32 or CPU32P. The 68000 just never had BDM
> support.
> 
> Tim Stoutamore
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Tim Stoutamore, Principal Engineer
> Blunk Microsystems
> 6576 Leyland Park Drive
> San Jose, CA 95120-4558
> Tel: 408/323-1758
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Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-16 by Michael Pont

It's always struck me that such static designs should result in improved
system reliability: for example, in the face of oscillator problems /
glitches, it seems that you should have a better chance of recovering the
system.

Anyone know of any evidence to back up this theory?

Michael.

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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?


> Nitesh,
>
> A static design allows the Microprocessor/controller to run at any speed,
> below it's max, including down to full stop (or static operation to put it
> another way) without losing the data it is processing.
>
> This is used to produce some lower power designs by running static parts
at
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> different frequencies.  I believe it is fairly common now to have static
> design so people don't make as big a deal about it.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Robert (Bob) McMillan
> Technical Solutions Manager (TSM)
> Future Electronics, Calgary
> Phone: (403)-219-3443 OR (888)-285-3443
> Cell: (403)-606-6256
> Fax: (403)-291-7054
> email: bob.mcmillan@...
> Website: www.futureelectronics.com
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * [mailto:Nitesh.Bahekar@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:12 PM
> To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
>
>
> What do you mean by static microprocessor design.
>
> Regards,
> Nitesh Bahekar,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Stoutamore [mailto:stout@...]
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:47 PM
> > To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * <Nitesh.Bahekar@...>
> > > I am just curious to know.
> > >
> > > If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support.
> > Why it is so?
> >
> > Unlike the other 683xx parts, the 68302's CPU is the 68000,
> > not the CPU32 or CPU32P. The 68000 just never had BDM
> > support.
> >
> > Tim Stoutamore
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tim Stoutamore, Principal Engineer
> > Blunk Microsystems
> > 6576 Leyland Park Drive
> > San Jose, CA 95120-4558
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RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?

2002-09-16 by Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) *

Thanks Bob for such a useful info. This will be greate help for the new
people like me in this field.

So, I can say, that newer controllers like 68332 has come with static design
and not the 68302. right?

Regards, 
Nitesh Bahekar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob McMillan [mailto:Bob.McMillan@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:53 PM
> To: '68300@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
> 
> 
> Nitesh,
> 
> A static design allows the Microprocessor/controller to run 
> at any speed,
> below it's max, including down to full stop (or static 
> operation to put it
> another way) without losing the data it is processing.
> 
> This is used to produce some lower power designs by running 
> static parts at
> different frequencies.  I believe it is fairly common now to 
> have static
> design so people don't make as big a deal about it.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Regards,
> Robert (Bob) McMillan
> Technical Solutions Manager (TSM)
> Future Electronics, Calgary
> Phone: (403)-219-3443 OR (888)-285-3443
> Cell: (403)-606-6256
> Fax: (403)-291-7054
> email: bob.mcmillan@...
> Website: www.futureelectronics.com
> 
> ******   Check out the Future Engineering Resource Center website:
> www.futureerc.com 
> 60 day loan on development tools, industry newsletters on new 
> technology,
> app notes,etc
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * 
> [mailto:Nitesh.Bahekar@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:12 PM
> To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
> 
> 
> What do you mean by static microprocessor design.
> 
> Regards, 
> Nitesh Bahekar, 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Stoutamore [mailto:stout@...]
> > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:47 PM
> > To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [68300] Does 68302 have BDM?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Nitesh Bahekar (RBIN/EDC3) * <Nitesh.Bahekar@...>
> > > I am just curious to know.
> > >  
> > > If I am not wrong, I think 68302 doesn't have BDM support. 
> > Why it is so?
> > 
> > Unlike the other 683xx parts, the 68302's CPU is the 68000,
> > not the CPU32 or CPU32P. The 68000 just never had BDM
> > support.
> > 
> > Tim Stoutamore
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tim Stoutamore, Principal Engineer
> > Blunk Microsystems
> > 6576 Leyland Park Drive
> > San Jose, CA 95120-4558
> > Tel: 408/323-1758
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> > www.blunkmicro.com
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