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pmod is not the same as pwm (pulse width mod). Pmod gives you that 
Bernie Worrell P Funk ginky vibrato when you turn the mod wheel.It's 
a frequency modification meaning an lfo (low frequency oscillator)
varies the pitch of the note.. Pulse width modification uses an lfo 
to change the width of the square wave, giving it a more nasal sound. 
You can set the pwm to 0 and still be getting tons of pmod. You 
should set the pmod to 0 and then try varying it with the free eg.

Using the random lfo for pmod gives an interesting sound like a 
poorly recorded video soundtrack. Setting oscillator 1 and oscillator 
2 at different levels of pmod gives an absolutely awful out of tune 
cacophony.

Rainbow Jimmy
htp://www.spaceanimals.com
http://www.mp3.com/spaceanimals

what your saying is true but im not talking about pulse width 
modulation in this case. don't forget that my vco2 is a sine wave and 
because of that the pmod depth acts as x-mod (cross modulation)
not pulse width modulation like the other waveforms.

anyway, that's a cool tip on the funky vibrato!

thanks anyway,
elektro dan.




--- In AN1x-list@y..., alciere@m... wrote:
> pmod is not the same as pwm (pulse width mod). Pmod gives you that 
> Bernie Worrell P Funk ginky vibrato when you turn the mod wheel.It's 
> a frequency modification meaning an lfo (low frequency oscillator)
> varies the pitch of the note.. Pulse width modification uses an lfo 
> to change the width of the square wave, giving it a more nasal 
sound. 
> You can set the pwm to 0 and still be getting tons of pmod. You 
> should set the pmod to 0 and then try varying it with the free eg.
> 
> Using the random lfo for pmod gives an interesting sound like a 
> poorly recorded video soundtrack. Setting oscillator 1 and 
oscillator 

> 2 at different levels of pmod gives an absolutely awful out of tune 
> cacophony.
> 
> Rainbow Jimmy
> htp://www.spaceanimals.com
> http://www.mp3.com/spaceanimals

hey all.  last night was the first time i was able to free up some 
time and hook up my synth to the edit program.  i'm probably doing 
something wrong.  i would select all the patches in a file 
(highlighting  all and/or clicking on the select all button) and send 
the files to my synth.  but then scrolling through the patches i 
noticed that not all the patches were replaced.  i would go back and 
select say 25-30 and send those and be ok.  if i selected more 
invariably i miss patches.  what am i doing wrong? 

by the way.  lots of good work.  as soon as i get done listening to 
everybody's stuff i'll post a list of kudos. 

thanks

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "vic pichardo" <deeperjazz@y...> wrote:
>
> hey all.  last night was the first time i was able to free up some 
> time and hook up my synth to the edit program.  i'm probably doing 
> something wrong.  i would select all the patches in a file 
> (highlighting  all and/or clicking on the select all button) and send 
> the files to my synth.  but then scrolling through the patches i 
> noticed that not all the patches were replaced.  i would go back and 
> select say 25-30 and send those and be ok.  if i selected more 
> invariably i miss patches.  what am i doing wrong? 
> 
> by the way.  lots of good work.  as soon as i get done listening to 
> everybody's stuff i'll post a list of kudos. 
> 
> thanks
>

Try using the "Refresh Synth" command from the Util menu in AN1xEdit after performing 
the data transfer. Othwerwise it sounds as though you are following the correct procedure. 

I assume there is no error message when you initiate the data transfer? In my experience, 
some USB MIDI Interfaces have not been reliable when sending more the 8-12 Voices at a 
time, but there has always been some indication of an error when this occurs.

Jon

thanks jon.  i tried it but still no luck and still no error 
message.   anybody more ideas? 


-- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "vic pichardo" <deeperjazz@y...> 
wrote:
> >
> > hey all.  last night was the first time i was able to free up 
some 
> > time and hook up my synth to the edit program.  i'm probably 
doing 
> > something wrong.  i would select all the patches in a file 
> > (highlighting  all and/or clicking on the select all button) and 
send 
> > the files to my synth.  but then scrolling through the patches i 
> > noticed that not all the patches were replaced.  i would go back 
and 
> > select say 25-30 and send those and be ok.  if i selected more 
> > invariably i miss patches.  what am i doing wrong? 
> > 
> > by the way.  lots of good work.  as soon as i get done listening 
to 
> > everybody's stuff i'll post a list of kudos. 
> > 
> > thanks
> >
> 
> Try using the "Refresh Synth" command from the Util menu in 
AN1xEdit after performing 
> the data transfer. Othwerwise it sounds as though you are 
following the correct procedure. 
> 
> I assume there is no error message when you initiate the data 
transfer? In my experience, 
> some USB MIDI Interfaces have not been reliable when sending more 
the 8-12 Voices at a 
> time, but there has always been some indication of an error when 
this occurs.

> 
> Jon
>

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "vic pichardo" <deeperjazz@y...> wrote:
>
> thanks jon.  i tried it but still no luck and still no error 
> message.   anybody more ideas? 
> 

 How about providing some more details - which Voice set are you working with? What 
MIDI Interface are you using? What OS are you running - Win or Mac?

Jon

> > 
> 
>  How about providing some more details - which Voice set are you 
working with? What 
> MIDI Interface are you using? What OS are you running - Win or Mac?
> 
> Jon
>

ok, i am using windows me, digi 001 interface on that computer. tried  
all voice sets.  i just went in and started auditioning each one.   
and in each one there were holes where previous patches were not 
copied over.  tried refresh, etc.   i can get it done, just takes 
longer.  if i do 10 at a time i get no holes.   

thanks.

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "vic pichardo" <deeperjazz@y...> wrote:
>
> 
> ok, i am using windows me, digi 001 interface on that computer. tried  
> all voice sets.  i just went in and started auditioning each one.   
> and in each one there were holes where previous patches were not 
> copied over.  tried refresh, etc.   i can get it done, just takes 
> longer.  if i do 10 at a time i get no holes.   
> 
> thanks.

I've not worked with a Digi001 first hand. I recall discussions on other forums regarding 
the integrated MIDI Interface onthe Digi 001 - and a quick Google turns up some old 
posts, so I suspect what you are experiencing is what I eluded to in a previous reply: the 
bulk transfer is dropping SysEx packets enroute to your AN1x. 

The reasons for this are varied and a quick search of the list archives will show this has 
been a long standing concern. The AN1x SysEx dumps are unusually large in size - more 
so than the average synthesizer - and this is design limitation on Yamaha's part that will 
not be revisited. This issue has dogged users of both platforms - particularly in the case 
of USB MIDI Interfaces - and we've had many discussions recommending one MIDI 
Interface or the other. I suspect the drivers for the Digi001 have not seen an update (or wil 
see an update) for many years - introduced in 2000, wasn't it?

Sorry this isn't much help, if you have the opportunity to try another MIDI Interface I would 
suggest doing so (I use a discontinued Emagic MT4 and it works a treat!)

Jon

thanks jon.  i appreciate it.

--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" <jondl_2000@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, "vic pichardo" <deeperjazz@y...> 
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > ok, i am using windows me, digi 001 interface on that computer. 
tried  
> > all voice sets.  i just went in and started auditioning each 
one.   
> > and in each one there were holes where previous patches were not 
> > copied over.  tried refresh, etc.   i can get it done, just 
takes 
> > longer.  if i do 10 at a time i get no holes.   
> > 
> > thanks.
> 
> I've not worked with a Digi001 first hand. I recall discussions on 
other forums regarding 
> the integrated MIDI Interface onthe Digi 001 - and a quick Google 
turns up some old 
> posts, so I suspect what you are experiencing is what I eluded to 
in a previous reply: the 
> bulk transfer is dropping SysEx packets enroute to your AN1x. 
> 
> The reasons for this are varied and a quick search of the list 
archives will show this has 
> been a long standing concern. The AN1x SysEx dumps are unusually 
large in size - more 
> so than the average synthesizer - and this is design limitation on 
Yamaha's part that will 
> not be revisited. This issue has dogged users of both platforms - 
particularly in the case 
> of USB MIDI Interfaces - and we've had many discussions 
recommending one MIDI 
> Interface or the other. I suspect the drivers for the Digi001 have 
not seen an update (or wil 
> see an update) for many years - introduced in 2000, wasn't it?
> 
> Sorry this isn't much help, if you have the opportunity to try 
another MIDI Interface I would 
> suggest doing so (I use a discontinued Emagic MT4 and it works a 
treat!)

> 
> Jon
>

what usb-midi interface are you using? most very cheap ones are rubbish and can't handle sysex

Are the correct midi port selected in an1xEdit?
What happens if you modify a tone, does it change the edit buffer on the AN1x?





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À : AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Samedi 22 février 2014 22h02
Objet : [AN1x] Re: an1x edit





midiman midisport uno--thank you

Since everyone is talking about AN1X edit here, can I use AN1X edit in real time? I recently lost the use of my knobs for the time being and my AN1X is in pieces while I decide how to go about fixing it. So I guess what I'm asking is this, does AN1XEdit have a thru capability so to speak? I have an extra PC and a spare interface. Could I plug the output of the spare computer and interface into the main boards midi input and then plug the spare comp and interface input into my sequencer and expect to pass notes and midi data through the spares and onto the AN1X via AN1XEdit and just create and edit patches?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:42 AM, <jim.alciere@...> wrote:

> On AN1x edit, it knows I'm using Midisport uno. Is that what you mean?Also, if I'm moving sounds from AN1X edit to the synth, I hit selct all and export, or select all and send? What about local on/off bulk dump. Are those relevant?
>
> Also, as moderator, I should know this, but does anyone know the correct link to most of the soundsets?
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>

I took my favorite patches and put them in AN1X edit, made multiple copies, and randomized them(I chose incremental in the option)s. I'll let you know how that experiment works.

I also noticed AN1X edit gives me better control over the free eg. I've been drawing curves so the osc fine tune drifts a little with a burst of randomness at the begining of the note. Also using it to give a little noise at the begining of flute patches. Also playing with the osc sync.Again, an experiment. I'll let you know.

If I come up with anything worthwhile and/or weird I will post.

Jimmy

Using the randomize function on the AN1X so far has lead to pretty useless patches--requires work just to get any sound out of them Got some pretty weird noises

Jimmy