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Re: [AVR-Chat] RE: Free I DE for any micro-Con troller fa mily

2014-05-04 by tim gilbert

This thread started with people complaining about the short comings of AVR studio 6. I tried it a year or so ago and after a week of frustration, sent a payment to codevision for the upgrade.

So let me qualify: when someone comes out with a razor that doesn't leave your skin raw, they will crush everyone else.

Tim

On 5/3/2014 8:45 PM, Jim Wagner wrote:

Atmel has done that, and so far, they are not crushing anyone.


Jim Wagner
Oregon Research Electronics

On May 3, 2014, at 7:36 PM, tim gilbert wrote:

Everyone,
When will the chip manufacturers realize that they're selling chips and not software?

Having worked for a major semiconductor house, I can tell you that the cost of spinning a new chip completely dwarfs the cost of developing a complete IDE from scratch!

The first micro manufacturer that decides to "give away the razor and sell them the blades" will crush everyone else!


Tim



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Tim Gilbert
JEM Innovation Inc.
303-926-9053 (office)
303-437-4342 (cell)
www.jeminnovation.com
www.pdksolutions.com

On 5/3/2014 7:05 PM, Jim Wagner wrote:

To dredge up an old-horse, of sorts, any recommendations for free IDE for 8051 family? Or, even a compiler and programming mechanism that works?


Thanks

Jim Wagner
Oregon Research Electronics

On May 3, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Martin McKee wrote:


I would certainly agree that "limited" versions are useless. However, given that very likely half of all LPC series products come in well under the 256k debug limit, I feel it is perfectly reasonable to consider. I guess I would think of the free version of LPCXpresso as "constrained," not "limited."

And, it's not the same, of course. But it is a debug/emulation limit. It will happily compile projects of any size. It's then up to the user to get it into the product though. And you'd better hope it works. But, it might still allow for fewer Pro seats needed.

Martin Jay McKee


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:42 PM, <larryvc@hotmail.com> wrote:

LPCXpresso Pro is only US $495.00 for a single user license, not the thousands that you mention. We have done some very large projects here and have yet to need the Pro version.


@JS, I am still alive and well. Super busy these days.









-- 
Tim Gilbert
JEM Innovation Inc.
303-926-9053 (office)
303-437-4342 (cell)
www.jeminnovation.com
www.pdksolutions.com

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