AVR-Chat

On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 14:31 -0700, Dennis Clark wrote:
> Thomas Keller wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 21:41 -0600, Kevin wrote: 
> >>John Samperi wrote
> >>>At 01:08 PM 19/10/2005, you wrote: 
> >>>> With that lead in, can anyone point me to some help on using
> >>>>eclipse with avr-gcc?  I have the avr-gcc environment on my system
> >>>>working just fine right now - I'd just like to get it and avrdude
> >>>>integrated into eclipse to see how fun it is. 
> >>>Have you looked at the new AVR Studio 4.12 with avr-gcc built in
> >>>yet?
> >>   Unless they've released on the Mac, I'm afraid I'm not too likely
> >>to get it to run...
> >   In point of fact, unless you are a slave to Billy Boy Gates and
> His crew of Crapware Developers, you won't get it to run at all.
>    Now, now, admit it.  The only reason you hate Mr. Gates is that he 
> got there first and got rich!  

  I will admit nothing of the sort.   I met Bill Gates before he
incorporated Microsoft, and I found him odious and irritating then, as
well.  Not to mention the fact that the on;ly reason Microsoft survived
its first year of existence is that Biully Boy's mommy and daddy are big
time attornies, whjo were able to intimidate numerous other hobyistsa
out of competing with their baby bouy and his precious BASIC interpreter
(which he stole frojm Harvard, and had no valid copyright claim on).

> I have nothing but respect for his marketing acumin.  

  I have no respect for him, his "acumen," or his products.

> His business ethics may leave a bit to complain 
> about, but hardly more than GM or Firestone, or just about every big 
> company out there.

  None of those companies represent a monopoly, nor are any of them as
guilty of stealing products, sellin g absolute CRAP to the public, and
grossly overcharging for same (tot he same extent, in any case).  but
you do have a point, business in the USA is a complete quagmire of
unethical behaviour and self-servbing executives.

>    I however like my Mac and the OS X UNIX interface.  So, back to the
> question:  Eclipse and avr-gcc integration?

   Actually, I don't much care for Macs either, but for entirely
different (and mostly technical) reasons. Of course, Jobs' elitist
attitudes about computing platforms doesn't help my opinion of the
platform or the company much. 

   But, as you implied, thus is off topic...back to AVRs

Tom