AVR-Chat

Humph.

Thomas Keller wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 14:31 -0700, Dennis Clark wrote:
> 
>>Thomas Keller wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 21:41 -0600, Kevin wrote: 
>>>
>>>>John Samperi wrote
>>>>
>>>>>At 01:08 PM 19/10/2005, you wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>>>With that lead in, can anyone point me to some help on using
>>>>>>eclipse with avr-gcc?  I have the avr-gcc environment on my system
>>>>>>working just fine right now - I'd just like to get it and avrdude
>>>>>>integrated into eclipse to see how fun it is. 
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you looked at the new AVR Studio 4.12 with avr-gcc built in
>>>>>yet?
>>>>
>>>>  Unless they've released on the Mac, I'm afraid I'm not too likely
>>>>to get it to run...
>>>
>>>  In point of fact, unless you are a slave to Billy Boy Gates and
>>
>>His crew of Crapware Developers, you won't get it to run at all.
>>   Now, now, admit it.  The only reason you hate Mr. Gates is that he 
>>got there first and got rich!  
> 
> 
>   I will admit nothing of the sort.   I met Bill Gates before he
> incorporated Microsoft, and I found him odious and irritating then, as
> well.  Not to mention the fact that the on;ly reason Microsoft survived
> its first year of existence is that Biully Boy's mommy and daddy are big
> time attornies, whjo were able to intimidate numerous other hobyistsa
> out of competing with their baby bouy and his precious BASIC interpreter
> (which he stole frojm Harvard, and had no valid copyright claim on).

   Which, according to the record he bought the license to from an 
ailing CPM company.  Have a care with hearsay and slander.  Sounds like 
sour grapes to me.

> 
>>I have nothing but respect for his marketing acumin.  
> 
> 
>   I have no respect for him, his "acumen," or his products.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

> 
>>His business ethics may leave a bit to complain 
>>about, but hardly more than GM or Firestone, or just about every big 
>>company out there.
> 
> 
>   None of those companies represent a monopoly, nor are any of them as
> guilty of stealing products, sellin g absolute CRAP to the public, and
> grossly overcharging for same (tot he same extent, in any case).  but
> you do have a point, business in the USA is a complete quagmire of
> unethical behaviour and self-servbing executives.

   Oh really?  Read up.  GM and Firestone conspired to buy up all of the 
street cars, scrap them and get cities to buy Bluebird buses with 
Firestone tires on them.  When they were found guilty of restraint of 
trade practices the court fined them $1.  Sounds like a monopolistic 
attack to me.  There is no shortage of creeps out there.

> 
>>   I however like my Mac and the OS X UNIX interface.  So, back to the
>>question:  Eclipse and avr-gcc integration?
> 
> 
>    Actually, I don't much care for Macs either, but for entirely
> different (and mostly technical) reasons. Of course, Jobs' elitist
> attitudes about computing platforms doesn't help my opinion of the
> platform or the company much. 

Again, sour grapes.  I don't like Windows, but I don't like it because 
it smothers innovation and forces mediocrity - And it doesn't seen to 
work very well.  But the masses have spoken, they like having their 
hands held and everything being the same.  So be it, they can have it.

>    But, as you implied, thus is off topic...back to AVRs


OK.

DLC

> Tom

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