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JTAGICE mkII clone (was Re: Avrdude problems.)

2005-05-22 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Brian Dean wrote: > ... do you plan to do [an inexpensive > JTAG device] that supports the JTAGICE > MkII protocol? No, I'm afraid I don't. There are several reasons. One is that my personal circumstances have changed and I no longer have time for

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-22 by Christopher G Worley

Red Lion or Yamitaki Honeywell comes to mind. Simple all in one units that have either analog or relay outputs for heat treat furnaces. As that's one of the few things I know of that requires 500C. You need the controller and a servo gas valve. As to the homebrew stuff, don't. Th

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by John Samperi

Thanks again for more suggestions and ideas. I'm sorry I can't be more specific on the application yet but I don't really know how confidential the information is, whether it is covered by patents or pending patents so I'm trying to be generic in terms so I don't get into any pos

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Zack Widup

Interesting. Thanks for the link. What I'm looking for is something to be lowered down a 2 1/2 inch diameter PVC pipe into a coal mine on a borehole camera. The sensor should probably be an inch in diameter or less. We've encountered situations where we don't know which direction

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Bruce Parham

Zack Widup wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2005, Robert Adsett wrote: > > This is sort of distantly related to the topic. Have any of you ever done > anything with a flux gate compass? > > Zack I worked for a small company in Texas about 20 years ago that did and from scratch. Quite an i

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-21 by Brian Dean

On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 01:18:32PM -0400, wbounce wrote: > This worked. Excellent! > Now I need to figure out why it happened to prevent it from > happening again. I have to go now but want o run some ideas by you > when I get back. I've heard reports of this type of thing happen

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RE: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Zack Widup

On Sat, 21 May 2005, Robert Adsett wrote: > > OK, I've a couple of alternatives in mind that you may want to take a look at. > > I recently went through looking for rotary position sensors. I was looking > for something rugged since they will end up at the top of a tower with > l

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-21 by wbounce

This worked. Now I need to figure out why it happened to prevent it from happening again. I have to go now but want o run some ideas by you when I get back. -----Original Message----- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Dean Sent: F

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RE: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Robert Adsett

At 04:39 PM 5/21/05 +1000, John Samperi wrote: >Thank you for all your replies so far. I guess I will need to explain >a little more. > >I'm trying to come up with some ideas for a prospective client. > > From what I understand so far the valve controls gas to a burner >which nee

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Brian Dean

Hi John, On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 04:39:06PM +1000, John Samperi wrote: > The valve will be moving a maximum of 1/2 turn, so no high speed > sensors are needed. An Absolute Position sensor would be nice > to have to find if the valve has moved or if the valve motor > has moved in

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-21 by Claxton, Dean J

After Grahams post I thought that might be the safest option - I'm too young to die :-) Appears there is a 5V and a 3.3V regulator in here - I took the risk and used the 15V supply - so far so good. The screen appears to be working fine so far (3 minutes and counting ). Many than

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Roy E. Burrage

Maybe add a pressure switch, or even a simple sail switch, on the input to ensure there is adequate gas supply and limit switches to indicate full open and full closed for the valve. The reason for the supply switch is we had a customer once who discovered the hard way that inade

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Bernd Felsche

On Saturday 21 May 2005 14:39, John Samperi wrote: > From what I understand so far the valve controls gas to a burner > which needs to keep a temperature of about 450 degrees celsius > (flaming hot!!) perhaps +- 30 degrees. A Mega16 (possibly) will > be monitoring the thermocoupl

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RE: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by John Samperi

Thank you for all your replies so far. I guess I will need to explain a little more. I'm trying to come up with some ideas for a prospective client. From what I understand so far the valve controls gas to a burner which needs to keep a temperature of about 450 degrees celsius (fl

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Kathy Quinlan

John Samperi wrote: > G'day all > > For a few days Yahoo has bumped off the list it seems... > > I posted the following on AVRfreaks so some of you may see this twice. > I need to know exactly where a stepper motor is positioned at any time. > By Googling I found some potentiomet

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Robert Adsett

At 10:08 AM 5/21/05 +1000, John Samperi wrote: >I posted the following on AVRfreaks so some of you may see this twice. >I need to know exactly where a stepper motor is positioned at any time. >By Googling I found some potentiometric position sensors, which I guess >will do by fee

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Roy E. Burrage

What are you controlling John? Could you measure output pressure or some other process variable at the valve rather than absolute position of the actuator? This is often more meaningful information if you're working with a process, rather than simple positioning, as it also allow

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RE: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Larry Barello

Get the real thing, not a digital panel control... www.usdigital.com -----Original Message----- From: John Samperi Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:33 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor At 10:26 AM 21/05/2005, you wrote: >Sounds

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by John Samperi

At 10:26 AM 21/05/2005, you wrote: >Sounds like you mamy want an absolute encoder. Bourns has one that outputs >seven >bit gray code. Check http://www.bourns.com/ rotary encoders for the EAW part. Thanks Bruce I was just looking at that in the Farnell data book (EAW0J-B24-AE0128)

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by Bruce Parham

Lots of folks make encoders. The most common type is the two phase incremental. Some of those come with a third channel to be used as an absolute "zero" reference. Sounds like you mamy want an absolute encoder. Bourns has one that outputs seven bit gray code. Check http://www.bou

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[OT a little]Motor Position Sensor

2005-05-21 by John Samperi

G'day all For a few days Yahoo has bumped off the list it seems... I posted the following on AVRfreaks so some of you may see this twice. I need to know exactly where a stepper motor is positioned at any time. By Googling I found some potentiometric position sensors, which I gues

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-20 by David Kelly

(think the quoting attribution got messed up due to poor reply formatting) > I ended up opening the supply to have a look inside. Why not look inside the LCD monitor instead. If there is a regulator in its input then its likely all this fuss is moot. > The problem with putting di

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by Brian Dean

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 06:32:03PM -0000, Ed wrote: > I can figure out how to get the good board to generate the on off > pulse (It is just a matter of doing the math but I do not have the > data sheet with me now.) Does it have to be exactly 1MHZ? No. If you just set your second

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by Brian Dean

On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 05:46:24PM -0000, Graham Davies wrote: > Let's not forget that you don't need the clock running to program > the MCU, or even to correct problems with the fuses, if you have a > JTAG interface. The MAVRIC boards have JTAG headers. The OP could > pick up an

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Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by Ed

Oh yeah Should I put a current limiting resistor in series on the wire? --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Brian Dean wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 11:14:16PM -0400, wbounce wrote: > > > This all started when I tried to program the problem board with an > > updated program. It d

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Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by Ed

Okay I remember you mentioning this before. Now for some details. I assume I will need to connect both boards to the same power source. ie so they will have common ground. I can figure out how to get the good board to generate the on off pulse (It is just a matter of doing the ma

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by Brian Dean

On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 11:14:16PM -0400, wbounce wrote: > This all started when I tried to program the problem board with an > updated program. It did its usually reading ### 100% and device > signature messages and started on the writing #### part when wheels > on my robot star

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Re: Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Brian Dean wrote: > ... setting the fuse bits to > use an external clock ... > When set to use an external > clock, then the chip won't > run and will refuse to be > programmed until an external > clock is provided. Let's not forget that you don't

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Re: A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-20 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Claxton, Dean J" wrote: > ... There is a current mode PWM > chip on ... the board - M62281FP > ... adjust the output voltage > ... by playing ... What you've probably got here is something like the application circuit at the end of your data shee

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-20 by Claxton, Dean J

Thanks Graham, I ended up opening the supply to have a look inside. There is a current mode PWM chip on the underside of the board - M62281FP (datasheet http://www.ortodoxism.ro/datasheets/MitsubishiElectricCorporation/mXrttz r.pdf ). Unfortunately my electronics knowledge is thi

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Avrdude problems.

2005-05-20 by wbounce

Just when I am starting to make headway problems set in. I am using WINAVR 3.4.1 with AVRDude I have a MAVRIC II board. I have a bsd parallel port programmer cable. I have verified the continuity of the cable (the 1st thing I do when I have trouble) and it is fine. I also was abl

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Re: A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-19 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Claxton, Dean J" wrote: > ... I placed a pair of 1N5404 > diodes in series for ... drop > of around 1.4V (to be on the > safe side ... the diodes get > rather toasty ... This seems to be a reasonable solution to me, assuming you can't find an obv

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Re: IAR - Anyone ?

2005-05-19 by John Mann

Lasse; I am new to the group, but fimiliar with the IAR EWB. I currently have a system I am working on in which I have placed data in both the FLASH and EEPROM on an MEGA128. If you look at the manual and help file for the IAR compiler, they describe multiple ways of forcing data

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Re: A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-19 by upand_at_them

Can you open it up and look for a regulator? Most power supplies only deliver a ballpark voltage. The device then has a regulator to get it where it needs to be, probably 12V. In which case you wouldn't have to drop the 15V at all. Few devices expect a well-regulated input voltag

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A little off topic, but PSU question....

2005-05-19 by Claxton, Dean J

Hi, Sorry - a little off topic but... I've got a Dell 1702FP LCD display, but unfortunately to not have the power supply for it. Standard power supply is a 14V @ 3A switch mode brick supply - similar to most laptops etc. I have a Toshiba laptop supply that is 15V @ 3A, and want t

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IAR - Anyone ?

2005-05-18 by Lasse Madsen

Hi All, I'm trying out IAR's embedded workbench version 3.2A for the first time and I've stumbled upon some questions which i hope you can help me with. 1) when you write: printf("Hello World"); It seems (or so i think) that IAR stores the string in RAM rather than in flash why i

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Jumptable

2005-05-18 by Reza

Hi; this code may help: in r24,port_address andi r24,3 ldi ZH,hi8(jmp_table) ldi ZL,lo8(jmp_table) or ZL,r24 ijmp NOTE: the jmp_table must aligned on 8 words bounry (three lower address bits must be zero) and contains only rjmp instructions. if the value does not lies in 0..7, us

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Re: [avrdude-dev] Re: [AVR-Chat] AVRDUDE 5.0 BETA Release

2005-05-18 by Russell Shaw

Mike Perks wrote: > Brian, > > I sometimes like to use AVRDude as an alternative to AVRProg. However I > have found the following problems continue to exist in even the AVRDude > 5.0 Beta. This is frank input that I hope will spur you to improve AVRDude. > > 1. I tried building m

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Re: [AVR-Chat] RE: GCC C runtime help

2005-05-18 by Dave Hylands

Hi Larry, On 5/17/05, Larry Barello wrote: > Anyone know how I can tell GCC linker to skip the C runtime (e.g. crtm128.o) > so I can roll my own specialized version? It's important to not have the main entry point be "main" as this causes a bunch of "extra" stuff to be pulled in.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] RE: GCC C runtime help

2005-05-18 by Russell Shaw

Larry Barello wrote: > Anyone know how I can tell GCC linker to skip the C runtime (e.g. crtm128.o) > so I can roll my own specialized version? I think if you compile all the .c files with gcc -c then run the linker separately, the crt file is left out by default. Another way mig

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RE: GCC C runtime help

2005-05-18 by Larry Barello

Anyone know how I can tell GCC linker to skip the C runtime (e.g. crtm128.o) so I can roll my own specialized version? TIA

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super caps and bridge

2005-05-18 by Anurag Chugh

I was just wondering .. what about using bridge rectifiers in the car circuit using high current rating diode.. that way u need not worry about polarity.. and i was just wondering.. is the swings/spikes in the car power supply so large and sustained to cause the conduction of the

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Re: Jumptable

2005-05-18 by Don Kinzer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "leon_heller" wrote: > I've just written a simple jump table program using ICALL: Your jump table would be better if it consisted only of addresses as opposed to the call/return. That saves both time and space. I use the GNU assembler (comes with

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Re: Jumptable

2005-05-17 by leon_heller

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Maddox" wrote: > Leon, > > Thanks, I hadn't spotted that in the instruction set. > Just looking at IJMP, it may be simpler to use, no pushing/pulling from the > stack and its 1 less clock cycle (speed is king)... I've just written a simple j

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Jumptable

2005-05-17 by Paul Maddox

Zack, > Yes, I've done it that way (in assembler). I'll have to dig for the > sample code if you want it. i'd like to see it, if you don't mind, thanks. > One thing to do is to make sure you mask off > all but the 3 bits you're going to add to the ZL register. Otherwise it's > po

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Re: [AVR-Chat] *************Hello All******************

2005-05-17 by Leon Heller

----- Original Message ----- From: zebjahanw To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] *************Hello All****************** Dear friends I am new with AVR's. I want to start with AT89C51 AVR. I have downloaded Studio 4.11 from atmel.c

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Re: [AVR-Chat] *************Hello All******************

2005-05-17 by Kathy Quinlan

zebjahanw wrote: > Dear friends > > I am new with AVR's. I want to start with AT89C51 AVR. I have > downloaded Studio 4.11 from atmel.com. I want to program in assembly. > Anyone cuold help me to send me tutorial to do so or web links to > start with. > > Regards and thanks > > Z

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RE: [AVR-Chat] *************Hello All******************

2005-05-17 by Paul Curtis

Hi, > I am new with AVR's. I want to start with AT89C51 AVR. I have > downloaded Studio 4.11 from atmel.com. I want to program in > assembly. > Anyone cuold help me to send me tutorial to do so or web > links to start with. That's an 8051, not an AVR. You'll have a hard time prog

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