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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: newbie looking for advice

Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: newbie looking for advice

2008-02-27 by np np

In my experience its best to buy programmers made by the same manufacturer as the chips I am using.

Sorry to mention PIC's but I have heard of lots of problems with none Microchip programmers.
I can only guess the same is true for AVR.
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----- Original Message ----
From: Tom <tjkeller1@windstream.net>
To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 27 February, 2008 9:23:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: newbie looking for advice

John Samperi wrote:
>
> At 06:52 PM 27/02/2008, you wrote:
> > You can use a parallel
> >port (assuming your PC has one), and a 4 wire cable, wired to a piece of
> >perfboard, or to pins that can
> >\be pligged into your solderless breadboard, for programming. Dead 
> simple.
>
> ....which is usually followed by Dead Chip....
>
> Regards
>
> John Samperi
>
With all due respect, John, Horsepuckey! My first AVR project was 
an AT90S8515 based project involving three separate controllers for 
interactive video kiosks (for the KoolAid Museum) and I must have 
programmed those 8515s a hundred times befoe I got the programs working 
properly. All done with nothing more thana length of ribbon cabl;e 
with 4 lines, and a DB25 connector on one endm and db-9 connector ont he 
other end, plugging in to my controllers. Never lost am 8515. Thery 
are still in place, still running great 5 years later.

While expensive programmer hardware can be nice, and offers some 
nice, useful features, the truth is that so long as one is reasonably 
careful, one can get bv dirt cheap with AVRs, without problems.

avrFreak





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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: newbie looking for advice

2008-02-27 by David VanHorn

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM, np np <harrabylad@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> In my experience its best to buy programmers made by the same manufacturer as the chips I am using.
>
> Sorry to mention PIC's but I have heard of lots of problems with none Microchip programmers.
> I can only guess the same is true for AVR.


There's a lot of junk out there, that's for sure.

I had an eprom programmer once, a mid-grade commercial unit, that
would program 8 chips at once, and usually three of them would crack
in half (ceramic chips) from the heat, and the other five would yield
three workable ones.
It was about $900 in 1984.

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