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Well this is my first time doing this so I don't know if the chips or the programmer are actually good.
But I bought a batch of dozen of the 15L's after trying 4 I would think some of them must work anyway, if not all.

Sorry I don't have an oscilloscope.

I appreciate the offer, that would certainly help.
But it's a long drive from atlanta and new york lol :)

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Kenny M. 
> Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2010 4:49 PM 
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRISP -> AtTiny Communication Problem 
> 
> Feel free to jump in I need all the help I can get lol 
> 
<snip> 

> 3b. Not sure what your target micro is but note that some (eg. 
> atmega128) do not use MISO/MISO pin for programming 
> AtTiny15L 
> 
> 4. What exactly is the error message from AVR studio? I always first 
> try to 'Read Signature' (from the 'Main tab') 
> Yeah I've been using read signature too, I get: 
> Setting mode and device parameters.. OK! 
> Entering programming mode.. FAILED! 
> Leaving programming mode.. OK! 
> Not too helpful lol 
> 

Hmm, this is funny. 
Can you tell us more detail about your target hardware. Is it 'known good'? 
How you have the ATTiny15L connected? (Do you have a schematic?) 

You mentioned LEDs on the AVRSIP. What colour are they? Frankly I do not 
take much notice of them (when it just works) but there is a detailed 
description of the status leds for the AVRISP in the AVR Studio 'AVR Tools' 
Help file. 

Do you have an oscilloscope? If so check you might check then signals coming 
from the programmer. 

I am stumped. You need to first determine whether it's the AVRISP or the 
target hardware (FWIW my gut feel is that it's not the ISP). Do you have 
other target hardware you can try with? 

What part if the world are you located in? 
I am in Sydney AU, you are welcome to drop into my office and we can spend a 
few minutes with my AVRISP to check your hardware. 

Ivan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Kenny M.
> Sent: Friday, 22 January 2010 4:14 PM
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRISP -> AtTiny Communication Problem
> 
> Well this is my first time doing this so I don't know if the chips or
> the programmer are actually good.
> But I bought a batch of dozen of the 15L's after trying 4 I would think
> some of them must work anyway, if not all.
> 
> Sorry I don't have an oscilloscope.
> 
> I appreciate the offer, that would certainly help.
> But it's a long drive from atlanta and new york lol :)


Well, if you start out today I'll see you next Tuesday ;-)  You do have
floaties' don't you?  (floaties.com.au) <grin>) 


Sorry I could help...

When you get things going please let the group know what the problem was.
Good Luck.
Ivan

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com ] On
> > Behalf Of Kenny M.
> > Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2010 4:49 PM
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRISP -> AtTiny Communication Problem
> >
> > Feel free to jump in I need all the help I can get lol
> >
> <snip>
> 
> > 3b. Not sure what your target micro is but note that some (eg.
> > atmega128) do not use MISO/MISO pin for programming
> > AtTiny15L
> >
> > 4. What exactly is the error message from AVR studio? I always first
> > try to 'Read Signature' (from the 'Main tab')
> > Yeah I've been using read signature too, I get:
> > Setting mode and device parameters.. OK!
> > Entering programming mode.. FAILED!
> > Leaving programming mode.. OK!
> > Not too helpful lol
> >
> 
> Hmm, this is funny.
> Can you tell us more detail about your target hardware. Is it 'known
> good'?
> How you have the ATTiny15L connected? (Do you have a schematic?)
> 
> You mentioned LEDs on the AVRSIP. What colour are they? Frankly I do
> not
> take much notice of them (when it just works) but there is a detailed
> description of the status leds for the AVRISP in the AVR Studio 'AVR
> Tools'
> Help file.
> 
> Do you have an oscilloscope? If so check you might check then signals
> coming
> from the programmer.
> 
> I am stumped. You need to first determine whether it's the AVRISP or
> the
> target hardware (FWIW my gut feel is that it's not the ISP). Do you
> have
> other target hardware you can try with?
> 
> What part if the world are you located in?
> I am in Sydney AU, you are welcome to drop into my office and we can
> spend a
> few minutes with my AVRISP to check your hardware.
> 
> Ivan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Ivan Vernot" <ivernot@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Kenny M.
> > Sent: Friday, 22 January 2010 4:14 PM
> > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRISP -> AtTiny Communication Problem
> > 
> > Well this is my first time doing this so I don't know if the chips or
> > the programmer are actually good.
> > But I bought a batch of dozen of the 15L's after trying 4 I would think
> > some of them must work anyway, if not all.
> > 
> > Sorry I don't have an oscilloscope.
> > 
> > I appreciate the offer, that would certainly help.
> > But it's a long drive from atlanta and new york lol :)
> 
> 
> Well, if you start out today I'll see you next Tuesday ;-)  You do have
> floaties' don't you?  (floaties.com.au) <grin>) 
> 
> 
> Sorry I could help...
> 
> When you get things going please let the group know what the problem was.
> Good Luck.
> Ivan
> 
> 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com ] On
> > > Behalf Of Kenny M.
> > > Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2010 4:49 PM
> > > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: AVRISP -> AtTiny Communication Problem
> > >
> > > Feel free to jump in I need all the help I can get lol
> > >
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > 3b. Not sure what your target micro is but note that some (eg.
> > > atmega128) do not use MISO/MISO pin for programming
> > > AtTiny15L
> > >
> > > 4. What exactly is the error message from AVR studio? I always first
> > > try to 'Read Signature' (from the 'Main tab')
> > > Yeah I've been using read signature too, I get:
> > > Setting mode and device parameters.. OK!
> > > Entering programming mode.. FAILED!
> > > Leaving programming mode.. OK!
> > > Not too helpful lol
> > >
> > 
> > Hmm, this is funny.
> > Can you tell us more detail about your target hardware. Is it 'known
> > good'?
> > How you have the ATTiny15L connected? (Do you have a schematic?)
> > 
> > You mentioned LEDs on the AVRSIP. What colour are they? Frankly I do
> > not
> > take much notice of them (when it just works) but there is a detailed
> > description of the status leds for the AVRISP in the AVR Studio 'AVR
> > Tools'
> > Help file.
> > 
> > Do you have an oscilloscope? If so check you might check then signals
> > coming
> > from the programmer.
> > 
> > I am stumped. You need to first determine whether it's the AVRISP or
> > the
> > target hardware (FWIW my gut feel is that it's not the ISP). Do you
> > have
> > other target hardware you can try with?
> > 
> > What part if the world are you located in?
> > I am in Sydney AU, you are welcome to drop into my office and we can
> > spend a
> > few minutes with my AVRISP to check your hardware.
> > 
> > Ivan
> > 


Which version of  AVRStudio are you using, I have had some nasty issues with the Jungo USB

driver it seems that when upgrading from Studio v4.17 to Studio v4.18 the USB driver

may not be uninstalled (see AVRStudio 4.18 release notes) and this has caused a lot of pain with the jtagicemk2, it seems to only 

partially work. I had some problems with win xp 32 bit and a lot more with windows 7 64 bit. After

much frustration I found that with Studio installed I had to manually unistall the USB driver and reinstall

the correct version from the correct drivers folder of AVRStudio. Ex (usb) or (usb64).

 

Regards, 

Owen,

At 04:14 PM 22/01/2010, you wrote:
>Well this is my first time doing this so I don't know if the chips 
>or the programmer are actually good.
>But I bought a batch of dozen of the 15L's after trying 4 I would 
>think some of them must work anyway, if not all.

Just in case anyone want to follow the original thread.
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=88458&highlight=
http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=658240#658240

Still don't know if the ISP header has been wired looking from the TOP
or whether any bypass caps have been installed.

Regards

John Samperi

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Well they just overnighted me a new one no rma needed so we'll see.
I can always exchange the first one with the mfg too LOL

------- Original message -------

> From: John Samperi <samperi@ampertronics.com.au>
> To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 1/22/'10,  2:51
> 
>   
> 
> At 04:14 PM 22/01/2010, you wrote:
>>Well this is my first time doing this so I don't know if the chips
>>or the programmer are actually good.
>>But I bought a batch of dozen of the 15L's after trying 4 I would
>>think some of them must work anyway, if not all.
> 
> Just in case anyone want to follow the original thread.
> http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=88458&highlight=
> http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=658240#658240
> 
> Still don't know if the ISP header has been wired looking from the TOP
> or whether any bypass caps have been installed.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Samperi
> 
> ********************************************************
> Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
> 11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
> Tel. (02) 9674-6495 Fax (02) 9674-8745
> Website http://www.ampertronics.com.au
> *Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly
> ********************************************************
> 
> 
>